I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Rigondeaux's is clearly highly skilled and I don't see anyone beating him in a chess match.

    But, he hasn't even shown an inside game yet. He hasn't even shown how he deals with elite pressure.

    Crowning him as the most skilled fighter of this era is absurd. Let alone all time.

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    • fishscale
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      #32
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      Its a win on the level of Whitaker vs Chavez (although that was draw :-/ )
      Its a win on the level of Duran vs Leonard
      Its a win on the level of Leonard vs Hearns
      Can I report you for trolling???

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        #33
        Originally posted by crold1
        I don't know about all-time, but he's surely one of the 4-5 best around right now. Sometimes we over think this stuff. He proved it last night. He's THAT good. I started on his bandwagon (had a bet after 3 fights he'd be a champ by the end of 10 and he sort of was), got all think-too-hard after Cordoba, and, nope, right the first time.

        He just came within a punch or two of shutting out a guy who hadn't come close to losing in six years at the title level. I look at Rigo at this point like Roy Hobbs. Castro was his whore that shot him in the gut, killing the chance for a Ruthian career. Lets not talk ourselves out of what we all really think after last night: if every fighter were the same size, Rigo would be favored over almost anyone.
        I'm sold, but let's see him against Mares and Garcia[at 126] though. He'd be favored against them of course. But Mares can give him a pretty tough fight, maybe outwork him if he swarms him not caring about his counters or boxing ability, like he did to another top 10 P4P fighter, Anselmo Moreno. Though Moreno had way less power than Rigondeaux.

        To me Mares is top 10 P4P and underrated as hell. I can name 4 guys Mares is more deserving of being in the top 10 P4P for. Bradley, Guerrero, Broner, and Donaire. Him and Rigondeaux should be in the list.

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        • dan_cov
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          #34
          Originally posted by valero
          Was his amateur record really 243-4 ?

          Its rumoured to be up to 475 wins, that is what he claims and if that is what he says, I don't doubt him.

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          • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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            #35
            Originally posted by valero
            Was his amateur record really 243-4 ?
            He had more fights than that. And word is he avenged those losses.


            Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

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            • Tim2daresq
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              #36
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              I agree.

              Rigo is 32. He is at the age where most fighters have had a long career and we start to asses where they stack up in the grand scheme of things.

              Last night, Rigo got himself a win that would be career defining for ANY fighter in the game today. It is probably the most significant win and performance of the last 20 years.

              He doesn't have the build up of lots of fights against really good fighters, because of circumstance, but he has the career defining win against a great hall of fame fighter in Donaire.

              Its a win on the level of Whitaker vs Chavez (although that was draw :-/ )
              Its a win on the level of Duran vs Leonard
              Its a win on the level of Leonard vs Hearns

              Rigondeaux was forced to spend his prime in the amateurs. Realistically, like Muhammad Ali, he was forced by Politics to sit out his prime years even in the amateurs.

              He proved that his skill and greatness with last nights performance. It ranks up there in quality with any win by any fighter, and I feel serves as an adequate bench mark to rank Guillermo Rigondeaux's quality in terms of all time greatness.

              He might not be the best fighter of all time, I'd still have a hard time seeing him coming out over Duran, but skill wise I am comfortable saying he has no equal.
              Agree with that. SKILL WISE, I think he's the best. I honestly do.

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              • Tim2daresq
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                #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Rigondeaux's is clearly highly skilled and I don't see anyone beating him in a chess match.

                But, he hasn't even shown an inside game yet. He hasn't even shown how he deals with elite pressure.

                Crowning him as the most skilled fighter of this era is absurd. Let alone all time.
                That's a good point. Hopefully they can make the Mares fight happen.

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                • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                  #38
                  Slow down Tards!

                  He appears to be a one handed fighter.
                  He does not have a proven inside game either.

                  What would have happened if donaire had similar foot speed and actually knew how to cut off the ring like a true p4p champ does?

                  Maybe he possesses all the skills of a great but until we see them on the top level, they don't exist.

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                  • Tim2daresq
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by fishscale
                    If Nonito Donaire is the toughest opponent he'll ever face in his career, lets call it a day, guy is barely HOF worthy.
                    Agenda alert!!! Now Donaire's barely HOF worthy.....I've heard it all.

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                      #40
                      let the good times roll

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