I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

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Originally Posted by Matty Ice

Do you really think Rigo is gonna let himself get caught on the inside? And even if he does its clear that he will do a "Molina" he will clinch ya. Also, did you see last night how he got caught on the ropes (forgot which round) then in the blink of an eye he grabbed the BIGGER man and swung HIM into the ropes? That's some text book **** bro.


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I'm not saying he doesn't have it, I'm just saying he hasn't shown it yet against an elite pressure fighter with an inside game.

I want to see how Rigondeaux deals with things when he's forced to be under pressure or out his comfort zone.

We haven't seen it yet.

Well, first people were doubting him cause of his pro experience and he clearly answered that so let's jump to the next thing, pressure. I say bring on Darchinyan. Not elite anymore but he will do the trick. Once Rigo catches Darchinyan to the body as hes coming in all reckless lets see whats next. We can ask for Mares but chances are it won't happen.


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[stefl14]

I can respect that, some times you over think things and its hard to believe some times that someone with so few fights can compete on that level, and you end up giving them a B+ in defense.

The thing is, as Roy Jones pointed out last night. Rigondeaux proved himself against the Carmellos, and the LeBrons, and the Kobes of the world TWICE in the olympics, TWICE in the world championships, and TWICE in the world cup.

People seem to not be willing to watch Amateur fights, pretending they dont matter and tell me not to jump the gun, he hasn't proven himself, etc...

His resume is there. There are MANY examples of him besting the most skilled fighters the world has to offer. Guys like Worapoj Petchkoom, Aghasi Mammadov, Raimkul Malakhbekov (who is himself a 2x World Am Champion), Gennady Kovalev (who is 2x World Am silver medalist), and was stopping guys like Bahodirjon Sultonov.

The man has the resume. He has demonstrated his skills among the best in the world, and with last night, he has demonstrated it again in the Professional Ranks.

Its unfortunate that he was prevent from turning pro due to the circumstances he was born into, but that does not diminish his accomplishments, that does not diminish his skill level, and it certainly doesn't exclude him from consideration among the best of all time.

As you said, if everyone was Rigondeaux's size, who would you honestly pick over him?

I think he is arguably the most skilled fighter in the history of our illustrious sport.

Mayweather? Please don't tell me that Rig is more skilled than Mayweather as that is ridiculous. Ricardo Cordoba lmao. For **** sake the amateurs might make you skilled in the pot shotting technical sense but doesn't mean you can deal with 12 rounds of pressure. We are yet to see this from Rig.

[stefl14]

Well, first people were doubting him cause of his pro experience and he clearly answered that so let's jump to the next thing, pressure. I say bring on Darchinyan. Not elite anymore but he will do the trick. Once Rigo catches Darchinyan to the body as hes coming in all reckless lets see whats next. We can ask for Mares but chances are it won't happen.


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I didn't doubt him. I knew he'd whip Donaire's ass if he didn't get knocked out because Nonito the counterpuncher is tailor-made for Rigondeaux as he is an inferior boxer by a long way. Doesn't mean I think he's the most skilled boxer of all time.

[fishscale]

I can respect that, some times you over think things and its hard to believe some times that someone with so few fights can compete on that level, and you end up giving them a B+ in defense.

The thing is, as Roy Jones pointed out last night. Rigondeaux proved himself against the Carmellos, and the LeBrons, and the Kobes of the world TWICE in the olympics, TWICE in the world championships, and TWICE in the world cup.

People seem to not be willing to watch Amateur fights, pretending they dont matter and tell me not to jump the gun, he hasn't proven himself, etc...

His resume is there. There are MANY examples of him besting the most skilled fighters the world has to offer. Guys like Worapoj Petchkoom, Aghasi Mammadov, Raimkul Malakhbekov (who is himself a 2x World Am Champion), Gennady Kovalev (who is 2x World Am silver medalist), and was stopping guys like Bahodirjon Sultonov.

The man has the resume. He has demonstrated his skills among the best in the world, and with last night, he has demonstrated it again in the Professional Ranks.

Its unfortunate that he was prevent from turning pro due to the circumstances he was born into, but that does not diminish his accomplishments, that does not diminish his skill level, and it certainly doesn't exclude him from consideration among the best of all time.

As you said, if everyone was Rigondeaux's size, who would you honestly pick over him?

I think he is arguably the most skilled fighter in the history of our illustrious sport.

The big mistake you're making here is comparing the Amateurs to the Pros. Duane Bobick beat Larry Holmes in the amateurs lol and that was when the Amateurs were a lot more professional style orientated.

[ElMeroChingon]

Rigondeaux put on a clinic. He got careless on the knock down, had it not happen, it would've made the victory so much sweater. In the bright side it showed us what we have not seen from Rigo.

Donaire looked huge in there too, i knew he was killing himself to make weight.

[Tim2daresq]

I didn't doubt him. I knew he'd whip Donaire's ass if he didn't get knocked out because Nonito the counterpuncher is tailor-made for Rigondeaux as he is an inferior boxer by a long way. Doesn't mean I think he's the most skilled boxer of all time.

BAHAHAHAAHAHA, OK, the 2nd ******est post I've ever seen.

"Donaire's tailor made for Rigo." Ni99a Donaire ain't tailor made for no one. TFOH with that ****.

Do you even know what tailor made means? Corrales vs Floyd, Hopkins vs Pavlik, Calzaghe vs Lacy. That's tailor made. What we saw last night was 1 fighter being a hair faster, and more technical than the other. It might've looked like a schooling, but that's how much of a difference a hair makes between 2 counter punchers.

[Spray_resistant]

A highly skilled boxer no doubt maybe the best counter puncher in boxing but I have watched all of his fights and for the most part he just tries to get everything off of the back end, could just be his demeanor but I want to see consistent innovation of offense against a world class boxer who isn't right in front of him like Donaire was.

[stefl14]

Rigondeaux put on a clinic. He got careless on the knock down, had it not happen, it would've made the victory so much sweater. In the bright side it showed us what we have not seen from Rigo.

Donaire looked huge in there too, i knew he was killing himself to make weight.

Donaire was probably 8 pounds more at most - not that significant given the styles of each fighter.

[IronDanHamza]

Well, first people were doubting him cause of his pro experience and he clearly answered that so let's jump to the next thing, pressure. I say bring on Darchinyan. Not elite anymore but he will do the trick. Once Rigo catches Darchinyan to the body as hes coming in all reckless lets see whats next. We can ask for Mares but chances are it won't happen.


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Well, Rigondeaux had a lot of question marks, of course. So far he's answering them well. You can't answer one question and consider them all answered.

He's answered if he's an elite pro, he's proven that. He has proven he is an elite, P4P calibur fighter as a pro. No one can outbox Donaire like that, no one. So he's proven that.

He's also proven he can take a punch.

He's proven he's an elite chess player. I don't believe anyone is beating him in a chess match.

He hasn't proven how he handles elite pressure yet. I've said this a few times but I have no seen an inside game from Rigondeaux yet. Not saying he doesn't have it, but, I wan't to see if he has it. Because he hasn't been in the ring with it yet and shown it.

I don't want to see him fight Darhcinyan at this point. I think a fight between him and the Salido before the Juan Ma fights would have been awesome.

[stefl14]

BAHAHAHAAHAHA, OK, the 2nd ******est post I've ever seen.

"Donaire's tailor made for Rigo." Ni99a Donaire ain't tailor made for no one. TFOH with that ****.

He is. You clearly don't know boxing. I knew Donaire would get completely out boxed. It's ironic that you're calling my posts ****** while at the same time asserting that Rigo is one of the most skilled boxers of all time.