Should Marquez Get 50% of The Pacquiao 5 Purse?

[BennyST]

Marquez deserves a pay rise, but not 50/50. You said Marquez is a decent draw, well then Pac is a huge draw, not to mention you based it on the crowd which was at the fight.... which doesn't make much sense. The fighters are paid as much as they are because of what they have done in the sport of boxing, the amount of entertainment they bring and the amount of money from fans that follows them.

Pac >>>>>>> Marquez in terms of accomplishments, personality, record and an exciting fighting style.

Floyd and Pac deserved 50/50 or extremely close because they are both the 2 superstars of boxing in our era, Marquez isn't, nor Bradley.

I didn't base it on that. That was a small observation that was just showing that this is not so one sided as people are making it out.

As to the rest, well, go back and read the first part of my first post.

Floyd draws significantly more money, PPVs, publicity than Pac per fight. That is indisputable, yet you still insist Pac deserves 50%. See the hypocrisy? You are just basing it on Pac being the 'other' superstar? Well, guess what, because of this last fight and KO, Marquez has become a huge star, especially in Mexico. Bigger than Morales and Barrera ever were. He's just had a movie made about him for crying out loud. If you think Bradley and Marquez bring in similar numbers you're utterly deluded.

Marquez is making the fifth fight huge, not Pac. Pac is overall the bigger draw based on their careers, but for this fight it would be specifically because of Marquez knocking him out that it would be so big. It would be because Marquez won the last fight and became a national superstar that it will be so big. That is deserving of something.

[Capncrunch]

On principle I believe so, but this is a business of course. So no.

[SplitSecond]

myself I thought one more round and Pac will finally get to stop Marquez, but it was not to be the case and we saw one heck of a knockout punch...

I was shocked and sorry for Manny but at the same time I could not stop watching the knockout replays...

i doubt he would've stopped marquez, juan was recovered already, pac's punches are little skittles to him now

[T18Z]

I didn't base it on that. That was a small observation that was just showing that this is not so one sided as people are making it out.

As to the rest, well, go back and read the first part of my first post.

Floyd draws significantly more money, PPVs, publicity than Pac per fight. That is indisputable, yet you still insist Pac deserves 50%. See the hypocrisy? You are just basing it on Pac being the 'other' superstar? Well, guess what, because of this last fight and KO, Marquez has become a huge star, especially in Mexico. Bigger than Morales and Barrera ever were. He's just had a movie made about him for crying out loud. If you think Bradley and Marquez bring in similar numbers you're utterly deluded.

Marquez is making the fifth fight huge, not Pac. Pac is overall the bigger draw based on their careers, but for this fight it would be specifically because of Marquez knocking him out that it would be so big. It would be because Marquez won the last fight and became a national superstar that it will be so big. That is deserving of something.

I honestly think you are over-estimating how much of a 'star' Marquez is now. I didn't say Bradley and Marquez bring in similar numbers, did I? But you are deluded if you think Marquez brings anywhere near close to the numbers Pacquaio brings.

You got any proof that Floyd draws 'significantly' more than Pacquaio? I know it's more, but please don't even try and compare floyd and pac to someone like Marquez, they are on different levels of stardom and that's what this is about.

You ever thought that Mexican fans won't tune in to watch the 5th fight because they see Marquez as already accomplishing his goal? How about the huge amount of filipino fans which will watch Pacquaio in his attempt to redeem himself for his country?

Marquez ain't achieved close to what Pac has, his legacy is good, but it's not on the same level, you don't give a fighter 10 million + extra for winning 1/4 fights, even if it was by knockout.

It would be because Marquez won the last fight and became a national superstar that it will be so big. That is deserving of something.

It is, which is why I think 3-5 million increase is deserved by him over the previous fights, but anywhere near 50/50? Nope.

[The Big Dunn]

I didn't base it on that. That was a small observation that was just showing that this is not so one sided as people are making it out.

As to the rest, well, go back and read the first part of my first post.

Floyd draws significantly more money, PPVs, publicity than Pac per fight. That is indisputable, yet you still insist Pac deserves 50%. See the hypocrisy? You are just basing it on Pac being the 'other' superstar? Well, guess what, because of this last fight and KO, Marquez has become a huge star, especially in Mexico. Bigger than Morales and Barrera ever were. He's just had a movie made about him for crying out loud. If you think Bradley and Marquez bring in similar numbers you're utterly deluded.

Marquez is making the fifth fight huge, not Pac. Pac is overall the bigger draw based on their careers, but for this fight it would be specifically because of Marquez knocking him out that it would be so big. It would be because Marquez won the last fight and became a national superstar that it will be so big. That is deserving of something.

I agree with your points (especially the hypocricy of some posters) but JMM still doesnt deserve 50%, especially with the fight being in Macau. If the fight is in Vegas and JMM has more fans in the arena like he did last time, than you could argue he deserves close to 50-maybe 55/45. Otherwise, Manny should get at minimum 60/40.

[-Huey-]

75% for Marquez.

[BennyST]

mayweather and pacquiao's drawing power is alot closer you ******
and floyd packs his undercard with already mexican stars and fights on cinco de mayo, how good of a contract and how much he can take from the total purse is a different story and is completely irrelevent to how many seats/ppv's they sell

you're dumb as rocks if you thought pac and jmm's individual ppv draws is somewhere in the ballpark of pac and may's.

...and clearly you can't read. Try again champ.

Let me make it real clear for you really dumb ****s. Marquez beat Pac by KO. That alone is deserving of significantly more and arguably 50%. Marquez' stock and popularity has dramatically risen since then and he would bring in a significant portion of the PPV and a larger mexican contingent because of it. They will be watching this fight because Marquez knocked him out in the last one, not just because Pac got knocked out.

I'm not saying their PPV numbers are, or have ever been, similar. Got it?

But, try to put yourself into a different perspective for a moment; one without your usual ******ed bias....difficult, if not impossible for many of you I know, but give it a shot.

Floyd is the bigger star. He draws more. We know that. If Pac took a smaller share of the purse as he should according to their numbers, and won the fight by KO, would you expect him to also take the smaller share in the rematch?

Marquez has taken significantly less, much, much less in fact. He should be deserving of a much larger share due to what he would bring to the table because he knocked Pac out. Thats what prizefiting is about. Its not based on PPV numbers alone. I think after 4 fights; two controversial losses, and one brutal, clear KO win, that he should be deserving of 50% or something very close.

Roberto Duran earned a much smaller amount of money compared to Leonard in their first fight. Something like 3 mil to 10 mil.

After Duran won, by decision not even a brutal KO, in the rematch he earned more than Leonard. He was deserving of it because he had beaten Leonard. Thats how things work. He didn't suddenly become a bigger star. He won their fight, thus was deserving of more in the rematch. That's how prizefighting works. It's not just individual numbers from the past fights that you look at.

[brettWall]

50/50 is okay. But Marquez wants more. Marquez never liked Pacquiao. He's got some jealousy issues even way back when they were relatively unknown. The first rematch didn't happen right away because Juan wanted the bigger purse. He ended up fighting in Indonesia for peanuts and lost. He also didn't back down when he was offered to fight Morales for $1.2 million. He wanted more. He also hate Morales to this day which is why Morales vs Marquez never happened.

[Heavy Hitter]

Right now(really since the conclusion of fight IV) Marquez has stated he is not interested in a fifth fight, and that he settled the rivalry.
Some act like Marquez is hot after the fight and asking for 50-50.
He states he's not interested in the fight unless its 50/50, those are his terms, if Pacquiao wants the revenge, thats what he'll have to agree to.
If not he's the one that has to deal with how the series ended, flat on his face with Marquez standing on the ropes with his arm up.

[SplitSecond]

...and clearly you can't read. Try again champ.

Let me make it real clear for you really dumb ****s. Marquez beat Pac by KO. That alone is deserving of significantly more and arguably 50%. Marquez' stock and popularity has dramatically risen since then and he would bring in a significant portion of the PPV and a larger mexican contingent because of it. They will be watching this fight because Marquez knocked him out in the last one, not just because Pac got knocked out.

I'm not saying their PPV numbers are, or have ever been, similar. Got it?

But, try to put yourself into a different perspective for a moment; one without your usual ******ed bias....difficult, if not impossible for many of you I know, but give it a shot.

Floyd is the bigger star. He draws more. We know that. If Pac took a smaller share of the purse as he should according to their numbers, and won the fight by KO, would you expect him to also take the smaller share in the rematch?

Marquez has taken significantly less, much, much less in fact. He should be deserving of a much larger share due to what he would bring to the table because he knocked Pac out. Thats what prizefiting is about. Its not based on PPV numbers alone. I think after 4 fights; two controversial losses, and one brutal, clear KO win, that he should be deserving of 50% or something very close.

Roberto Duran earned a much smaller amount of money compared to Leonard in their first fight. Something like 3 mil to 10 mil.

After Duran won, by decision not even a brutal KO, in the rematch he earned more than Leonard. He was deserving of it because he had beaten Leonard. Thats how things work. He didn't suddenly become a bigger star. He won their fight, thus was deserving of more in the rematch. That's how prizefighting works. It's not just individual numbers from the past fights that you look at.

I wasn't even argueing with you about what marquez deserves, just thought your mayweather comparison was way off base, they were pretty even until pacquiao fought mosley and bradley, when most of that argueing was going on about how it should be 50-50 between the two it was right on the money until later on floyd started pulling away, which i think most then started agreeing that floyd deserved a bigger portion, although not to the degree he wanted it(can;'t even remember what it was, 0%?)

and the aggressive tones in your posts kind of makes me want to cuss you out and call you messed up sht like kiddy fiddler or somethin, ****