Comments Thread For: Schaefer Explains The Peterson-Matthysse Catch-Weight

[puga]

Because a tournament is happening. All of these individual belts are irrelevant because only one man will be standing when all of these fights are completed. If Matthysse is as good as people think he is, he will have cleaned out 140 and nobody will give a **** about the IBF title.

Nobody is a real champion right now. They are all contenders until they fight each other and one man remains.

If GBP doesn't go through with this tournament idea they will be crucified in the eyes of the public. In the promo for this fight they labeled it the "first leg" of the 140 pound tournament.

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being IT a tournament doesn't justify mathysse not being able to get the title even if he wins ...if anything , the title should be on the line each time a world champion fights...you cant say the belts are irrelevant esp when some champions are being fixed to not lose the title regardless ...

[Kagami Taiga]

being IT a tournament doesn't justify mathysse not being able to get the title even if he wins ...if anything , the title should be on the line each time a world champion fights...you cant say the belts are irrelevant esp when some champions are being fixed to not lose the title regardless ...

Who's being fixed to not lose the title? Mathysse doesn't wanna lose his interim slot so he won't fight for the IBF. This is on him.

[puga]

Who's being fixed to not lose the title? Mathysse doesn't wanna lose his interim slot so he won't fight for the IBF. This is on him.

how would he lose his interim title if they make this fight only for the IBF title?...

[-PBP-]

being IT a tournament doesn't justify mathysse not being able to get the title even if he wins ...if anything , the title should be on the line each time a world champion fights...you cant say the belts are irrelevant esp when some champions are being fixed to not lose the title regardless ...

There's certain situations when belts are relevant. This isn't one of them.

Belts are good for fighters like Carlos Molina who can't get fights. It gives him more bargaining power and the opportunity for more high profile fights and opportunities to fight on major networks. Or guys like K9 who want to babysit the belt and hope it leads to an opportunity for a big money fight.

In this case, the winner of this fight is getting close to a million dollar payday at the end of the year when they go against Danny Garcia for 140 pound supremacy. He will be fighting in front of a packed house in New York City in front of millions of people. He will be getting everything K9, Carlos Molina, Ishe Smith or any other belt holder waits their entire careers for and then some.

[Capncrunch]

how would he lose his interim title if they make this fight only for the IBF title?...

You can't be a mandatory and be a champion at the same time. It almost seems like it should be non-title anyways.

[BoxingGenius27]

I feel like Mathysse is getting put through the ringer; fighting all the tough fights, while Garcia is in cruise control.

[-PBP-]

I feel like Mathysse is getting put through the ringer; fighting all the tough fights, while Garcia is in cruise control.

Garcia beat Khan already. Peterson fought Khan too. Although he probably wouldn't have gotten the decision in any other city in the world it was a competitive fight.

But if you can't beat Lamont Peterson, your just not an elite fighter. Peterson is a good fighter, but he's more than beatable. It's a tough fight but very winnable.

Let's not act like he's being run through some vicious gauntlet of elite world beatersr.

[puga]

There's certain situations when belts are relevant. This isn't one of them.

Belts are good for fighters like Carlos Molina who can't get fights. It gives him more bargaining power and the opportunity for more high profile fights and opportunities to fight on major networks. Or guys like K9 who want to babysit the belt and hope it leads to an opportunity for a big money fight.

In this case, the winner of this fight is getting close to a million dollar payday at the end of the year when they go against Danny Garcia for 140 pound supremacy. He will be fighting in front of a packed house in New York City in front of millions of people. He will be getting everything K9, Carlos Molina, Ishe Smith or any other belt holder waits their entire careers for and then some.

mathysse is pretty much looking for a high profile fights himself so i dont know why a belt is irrelevant... also , since there suppose to be a tourney , why does it matter if mathysse loses his mandatory then? does'nt make sense

You can't be a mandatory and be a champion at the same time. It almost seems like it should be non-title anyways.

i find that hard to believe given the only reason IBF refused this unification is because interim belt is not a recognized world title belt......

[BoxingGenius27]

Garcia beat Khan already. Peterson fought Khan too. Although he probably wouldn't have gotten the decision in any other city in the world it was a competitive fight.

But if you can't beat Lamont Peterson, your just not an elite fighter. Peterson is a good fighter, but he's more than beatable. It's a tough fight but very winnable.

Let's not act like he's being run through some vicious gauntlet of elite world beatersr.

Compared to Garcia and everyone else at 140, I think he is.

Sure Garcia beat Khan, but again, Peterson just beat Khan one fight prior. Garcia stepped in at the last minute because of the testing thing. It still doesn't change that Khan was coming off a loss.

Then, why didn't Garcia fight Olusegun instead of Morales? Why, because of some rematch clause? Please GB does what they wanna do, when they wanna do it. There's a work around for everything. If they really wanted Garcia to fight Olusegun, the mandatory, it would've happened.

Then instead of fighting Mathysse now, he's fighting Judah. This fight has been a joke since day 1. I don't care the Judah beat Mathysse a "few years" ago. Or Judah beat Vernon Paris who has accomplished zelch. We all know what happens to Judah every time he's on the main stage. He chokes. Then I hear all this stuff about it being some east coast thing because Judah sells tickets. That's BS. It's because they want him far away from Mathysse as possible.

This is no different than what Bute tried to pull off during the SS and what Canelo's been doing. Let all the elite guys in the division x each other out while I sit back sitting pretty.

So again, comparing Garcia's schedule to Mathysse's and I think he is being put through the ringer.

[-PBP-]

mathysse is pretty much looking for a high profile fights himself so i dont know why a belt is irrelevant... also , since there suppose to be a tourney , why does it matter if mathysse loses his mandatory then? does'nt make sense

You know what would happen if Matthysse won that IBF title?

He loses his WBC mandatory spot.

Scheafer: "We can't make Garcia vs. Matthysse because the WBC blocked the unification bout from happening. Instead, Garcia is going to fight Amir Khan, who was just elevated to the #1 contender at 140."

You know why? Because sanctioning fees are based off purses and Khan vs. Garcia 2 is where the money is.

And Matthysse will be fighting his IBF mandatories on undercards.


His best route to stardom is through this tournament and a fight against Danny Garcia. He's got bigger things in store for him than this IBF title.