Floyd's Style Vs Guerrero

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Can you name these elite fighters?

sharmba mitchell, zab judah, carlos baldomir, victor ortiz, ricky hatton, robert guerrero.all elite welterweights. combined they have 5 top 10 wins. margarito has 6 alone. oh well. they are basically the same. 6 fights for the price of 1. floyd "money" mayweather at work.

[The Gambler1981]

berto wasn't in the top 10. he was dropped from the rankings. margarito was like golovking. none of the "elite" guys wanted him so he destroyed everyone else he could get his hands on. you still don't understand this concept. some guys don't get to choose opponents. some guys like floyd do. remember when margarito tried to get a floyd fight? denied! fought baldomir for less money. margarito's resume at ww is certainly a hell of a lot better than floyd's. he was forced to take all the tough fights to get noticed. floyd "silver spoon" mayweather strolled in and cherry picked his way to stardom. it wouldn't be so bad if he decided to stop cherry picking now that he has the popularity but he still does it. even if he loses people will still buy his fights. oscar lost all the time.

Berto was still a top ten guy, mainly because it wasn't a good division but he was a much more accomplished guy at 147 that anyone outside the top three.

So what Margarito still did not beat guys that did anything, you can't just give him credit because you think he was this avoided guy. Margarito's resume is garbage outside of Cotto worse than Calzaghe's, I am sorry he didn't get the chances you felt he deserves he should not have lost fights at key times like to Santos, Williams and Mosley and maybe you would have got to see him fight some better guys, sadly he fell short at key times, which kind of shows his level as a fighter~


Baldomir was for equal money since he just paid to get away from Arum and to get that Margarito money he would have had to sign back up to Top Rank which would have taken Oscar off the table, you are really not being honest.

So you continue to live in the past~ this is 2013 broham get out of 06 and 07

[The Gambler1981]

We have already been through all this before, so this is dumb.

I only talked to you because you chose your words poorly and you can't back up your talk when talking about the here and now, you are having to go back years.

If you don't think Guerrero is that good cool whatever, you don't think he can beat Floyd fine I can see why you would say that.

He just isn't a terrible fighter~ when looking at the current landscape at 147 now that is a soft division and that plays a role in that.

[-Kev-]

sharmba mitchell, zab judah, carlos baldomir, victor ortiz, ricky hatton, robert guerrero.all elite welterweights. combined they have 5 top 10 wins. margarito has 6 alone. oh well. they are basically the same. 6 fights for the price of 1. floyd "money" mayweather at work.

So Margarito is the elite fighter that Floyd can fight right now instead of RG?

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Berto was still a top ten guy, mainly because it wasn't a good division but he was a much more accomplished guy at 147 that anyone outside the top three.

So what Margarito still did not beat guys that did anything, you can't just give him credit because you think he was this avoided guy. Margarito's resume is garbage outside of Cotto worse than Calzaghe's, I am sorry he didn't get the chances you felt he deserves he should not have lost fights at key times like to Santos, Williams and Mosley and maybe you would have got to see him fight some better guys, sadly he fell short at key times, which kind of shows his level as a fighter~


Baldomir was for equal money since he just paid to get away from Arum and to get that Margarito money he would have had to sign back up to Top Rank which would have taken Oscar off the table, you are really not being honest.

So you continue to live in the past~ this is 2013 broham get out of 06 and 07

margarito's resume is garbage yet it's still ten times better than guerrero's and ortiz's. why did floyd fight those guys though? he didn't wait years for them to lose like he did to margarito. you can't wait for someone to lose then say "see he ******" he was way more worthy than those guys and floyd didn't want any yet you still defend his pansy azz. so guerrero and ortiz all they have to do to get a floyd fight is get through berto but margarito has to go undefeated for 5 plus years and beat clottey, cotto, williams, mosley and a slew of other ranked fighters? yeah too bad he couldn't do that because then floyd would have fought him if he did that? you really believe that fanstasy? oh wait pac did that basically and floyd still didn't fight him.

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We have already been through all this before, so this is dumb.

I only talked to you because you chose your words poorly and you can't back up your talk when talking about the here and now, you are having to go back years.

If you don't think Guerrero is that good cool whatever, you don't think he can beat Floyd fine I can see why you would say that.

He just isn't a terrible fighter~ when looking at the current landscape at 147 now that is a soft division and that plays a role in that.

yes it's soft as hell and that's why floyd is fighting. when it was rough he was nowhere to be seen. why don't you understand this? guerrero is not on pac or margarito's level and you know this. no one sees him as a threat, he doesn't have a third of their accomplishments. it makes no sense to pretend he's on their level yet here you are just pretending that floyd's inactivty is a coincidence that he only fights subpar guys. it's just bad timing that all the good fighters are dominating when floyd is retired!

[J.Dempsey]

If floyd has slowed down, he still has his superb timing.
He knows how to tie up and pretty much disarm his opponents.
Ghost will apply pressure (similar to the berto fight) but won't land anything significant and will also get tagged on the inside. Once he switches to a mid range fight when the pressure isn't working, it's game over.
UD or stoppage depending on ghosts heart

[The Gambler1981]

margarito's resume is garbage yet it's still ten times better than guerrero's and ortiz's. why did floyd fight those guys though? he didn't wait years for them to lose like he did to margarito. you can't wait for someone to lose then say "see he ******" he was way more worthy than those guys and floyd didn't want any yet you still defend his pansy azz. so guerrero and ortiz all they have to do to get a floyd fight is get through berto but margarito has to go undefeated for 5 plus years and beat clottey, cotto, williams, mosley and a slew of other ranked fighters? yeah too bad he couldn't do that because then floyd would have fought him if he did that? oh wait pac did that basically and floyd still didn't fight him.

Not really they are rather similar~ Margarito just is not an important fighter he is a dime a dozen in history. I don't get what your infatuation with him is? He didn't accomplish much nor was he that talented.

I am not talking about Floyd-Manny, but at least Manny was a special fighter so I can get why you would be bent about that.

This still has nothing to do with what I was talking to you about in this thread, seriously dude I asked you to shoot straight and I get this recycled garbage. This is 2013 time to update your material~

[The Gambler1981]

yes it's soft as hell and that's why floyd is fighting. when it was rough he was nowhere to be seen. why don't you understand this? guerrero is not on pac or margarito's level and you know this. no one sees him as a threat, he doesn't have a third of their accomplishments. it makes no sense to pretend he's on their level yet here you are just pretending that floyd's inactivty is a coincidence that he only fights subpar guys. it's just bad timing that all the good fighters are dominating when floyd is retired!

It wasn't even that good then~ because none of those dudes distanced them self. Over rated would be what I would call 147 from that period in hindsight~

I didn't say Guerrero was on Manny's level, Manny is actually a great fighter. I said he was on Margarito's which would imply that in history they are both a dime a dozen~. Margarito is not on a level with Manny either so cut that shit right now.

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Not really they are rather similar~ Margarito just is not an important fighter he is a dime a dozen in history. I don't get what your infatuation with him is? He didn't accomplish much nor was he that talented.

I am not talking about Floyd-Manny, but at least Manny was a special fighter so I can get why you would be bent about that.

This still has nothing to do with what I was talking to you about in this thread, seriously dude I asked you to shoot straight and I get this recycled garbage. This is 2013 time to update your material~

being ranked #1 for 4 years isn't accomplishing much? beating 6 top 10 fighters isn't accomplishing much? did guerrero or ortiz do those things? how can you pretend that margarito wasn't a legit fight then turn around and say guerrero is legit. oh the division sucks so floyd gets a pass. um no he doesn't because when the division was full of talent he "retired" this is called cherry picking.