Golovkin-Macklin getting close to getting done for June 29th

[samouraļ]

I actually hope he loses so all you phags who over hype him can eat ****

tee hee

But if he doesn't lose that means we weren't over-hyping him... your comment makes no sense.

[Pain~Lucy]

are they trying to build the thomasvsggg fight? dayum that's nice!

[J-Smooth]

But if he doesn't lose that means we weren't over-hyping him... your comment makes no sense.

If he doesn't lose than he's pretty good tbh but if he looses to this good middle weight in convincing fashion than he was over hyped. . .get it?

[Russian Crushin]

Macklin taking this now would be enough proof that his decision was correct. He turned it down in September, why? Likely because the risk didn't meet the reward. He's accepting it now, why? Because likely the risk meets the reward. Are you Macklin's manager or promoter? Do you know the intimate financial details more than Macklin himself?

You're looking at the situation now but you're ignoring where he would be at if he had faced Golovkin in Sept and won. He would be in a much higher position with a belt and maybe would have had Chavez fight him. I'm not his manager, but you sure sound like you are. You'd rather he fight Alcine for peanut then Golovkin for more money and a belt. I as a fan want the best fight

Macklin rejecting Julio came straight out of Arum's mouth. Are you Julio's promoter now as well? Do you know more than Arum? Macklin hasn't denied it.

When did mackin decline Chavez?

The fact is that he is inactive. Nothing can change that and it's too late for a tuneup. I have no idea why he couldn't take a fight earlier, but I don't know the details so I can't judge. I don't know how his nose recovery was going and how he felt, and I don't know what options were available for him as a tuneup. You guys don't know either. The thing is, you and hero bando have for weeks now been implying that Macklin would be ducking if he didn't take this fight in June. Now that there's more concrete news of Macklin is taking it, you guys are agreeing that Macklin not having the confidence to fight Golovkin would be a trainwreck, which is pretty much exactly what Macklin was saying himself. But money talks I guess, and enough money was put up for him risk it with his inactivity.

How many times can you decline a fight with the same guy before it becomes a duck? He is sitting around for months doing nothing. and complains about not fighting in 15 months. Macklin doesnt sound like he has confidence. He sent several tweets on the 26th how he wasnt gonna take the fight and how its unfair, etc, etc. He was fully poised to take a Chavez fight in april or june with almost no complaints but with golovkin its a problem

[DoktorSleepless]

You're looking at the situation now but you're ignoring where he would be at if he had faced Golovkin in Sept and won. He would be in a much higher position with a belt and maybe would have had Chavez fight him. I'm not his manager, but you sure sound like you are.

You're ignoring that getting a minor paybump in the short term is not necessarily the best descision. Macklin getting paid double to fight Golovkin is nothing when you're talking about only doubling 80k. At least it's nothing when talking about real HBO paydays, which he'll now likely get on in June if he fights him. Beating Golovkin september didn't assure anything for Macklin. Golovkin would have only been seen as another failed euro had he been beaten in his US debut. Golovkin would be the second coming of Ismayl Sillakh. And again, that belt meant nothing, especially since there was no guarantee that he'd get the Sturm fight for the full belt, who had previously ducked the Macklin rematch.

I as a fan want the best fight

I as a fan, I want to see the best fight the best when they're at their best, not when they're coming off brutal knockout beatings.


You instead simply want see your favorite fighter get a name under his belt, nevermind his condition. And Golovkin vs Proksa probably was a better fight than Golovkin vs Macklin at the time so I'm not mad about Golovkin vs Macklin not happening in September.

When did mackin decline Chavez?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...manny-pacquiao

How many times can you decline a fight with the same guy before it becomes a duck?

So he did make up the operation? He was just pretending to duck Golovkin?

He is sitting around for months doing nothing. and complains about not fighting in 15 months.

He wasn't doing nothing for 15 months. He took the Alcine fight 7 months ago, but nobody would have thought he'd only get one round out of it, considering Alcine had just gone 12 rounds with a guy with a 90% KO ratio. And then he got a freaken nose operation that comes with extra recovery time, which he did not do for fun and to preemptively duck Golovkin. (which you seem to believe)

Macklin doesnt sound like he has confidence. He sent several tweets on the 26th how he wasnt gonna take the fight and how its unfair, etc, etc. He was fully poised to take a Chavez fight in april or june with almost no complaints but with golovkin its a problem

Yes, you got it! He's not confident! He never denied it. In fact, it's his whole argument! He's not condifent exactly because he's been inactive. Chavez is the easier fight and likely came with the bigger paycheck (it's Prize fighting after all), so risking the inactivity was worth it. Chavez is also last fought when Macklin last fought making it more of an even playing field. But now HBO are paying extra to fight Golovkin because they're desperate for an opponent, so he's worth it as well. And they're paying more, exactly like Macklin's team predicted, by fighting him now instead of last year.

[Yakushev]

Golovkin had no belt when he first fought on HBO, had zero notable wins, and the fight ended up being a record low rating for HBO. I doubt a Golovkin paycheck would be any good for his first fight. There was no real incentive to fight him post traumatic Martinez KO, especially when you can fight him later for more money.

Macklin had a freaken nose operation in the time of Golovkin's next fight. Apparently not wanting to fight with a fucked up nose isn't an acceptable excuse for Hero Bando. Fight through the pain!

GGG had no belt? What do you mean? He'd had regular WBA for a few years before his first fight in hbo.

[DoktorSleepless]

GGG had no belt? What do you mean? He'd had regular WBA for a few years before his first fight in hbo.

Sturm had the real WBA belt. Golovkin got a trinket to satisfy him while Sturm ducked him. And even if they were equal in status, they would be equally shitty as long as there two WBA belts around.

[samouraļ]

If he doesn't lose than he's pretty good tbh but if he looses to this good middle weight in convincing fashion than he was over hyped. . .get it?

I get it, but you're saying you hope he loses. In other words, you hope he's over-hyped and that way you can rub it in that he was over-hyped. You can say this about any fighter, though.

"I hope he ends up being over-hyped so that those who did the over-hyping are embarrassed because they over-hyped him". Why wish for that to happen? If you believe he's over-hyped that's cool, but hoping he loses just so you can be right is ridiculous.

[HeroBando]

You're ignoring that getting a minor paybump in the short term is not necessarily the best descision. Macklin getting paid double to fight Golovkin is nothing when you're talking about only doubling 80k. At least it's nothing when talking about real HBO paydays, which he'll now likely get on in June if he fights him. Beating Golovkin september didn't assure anything for Macklin. Golovkin would have only been seen as another failed euro had he been beaten in his US debut. Golovkin would be the second coming of Ismayl Sillakh. And again, that belt meant nothing, especially since there was no guarantee that he'd get the Sturm fight for the full belt, who had previously ducked the Macklin rematch.


I as a fan, I want to see the best fight the best when they're at their best, not when they're coming off brutal knockout beatings.


You instead simply want see your favorite fighter get a name under his belt, nevermind his condition. And Golovkin vs Proksa probably was a better fight than Golovkin vs Macklin at the time so I'm not mad about Golovkin vs Macklin not happening in September.


http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...manny-pacquiao


So he did make up the operation? He was just pretending to duck Golovkin?


He wasn't doing nothing for 15 months. He took the Alcine fight 7 months ago, but nobody would have thought he'd only get one round out of it, considering Alcine had just gone 12 rounds with a guy with a 90% KO ratio. And then he got a freaken nose operation that comes with extra recovery time, which he did not do for fun and to preemptively duck Golovkin. (which you seem to believe)


Yes, you got it! He's not confident! He never denied it. In fact, it's his whole argument! He's not condifent exactly because he's been inactive. Chavez is the easier fight and likely came with the bigger paycheck (it's Prize fighting after all), so risking the inactivity was worth it. Chavez is also last fought when Macklin last fought making it more of an even playing field. But now HBO are paying extra to fight Golovkin because they're desperate for an opponent, so he's worth it as well. And they're paying more, exactly like Macklin's team predicted, by fighting him now instead of last year.

All fair points, and credit to him if he takes it. It's no done deal, isn't this coming from Arum? Sounds like Arum's been pushing for it for a month, and HBO is probably putting the squeeze on him.

You kinda missed the Chavez point. He's been shooting for that fight since before the operation. He doesn't need a tuneup for Chavez? Wouldn't he be a solid underdog to him also?

[SweetScience]

Cool he's fighting a middleweight, good boy.