Comments Thread For: Photos: Golovkin Retires Ishida With a Deadly KO Win

[Russian Crushin]

So it's better for Golovkin to stay in a division where it is obvious that the competition is terrified to face him and he will never get to shine than it is to try to secure a fight with top guys at 168 that he has already KO'd before?

Or how about the guys at 160 step up and fight him. You're obviously being sarcastic because you know its true

Golovkin and his team can spend their remaining years pointing out how no one would fight him, which may very well prove to be true but that won't secure Golovkin his title shots, fame or recognition.

Meanwhile 37 year old Sergio wasting time fighting Murray

[Szef]

Sooooooo, who has he fought to dismiss that claim????? All I need is one person of significance, just one person who was ranked in the top ten. Doesn't have to be a current ten fighter, he can be last years top ten...Matter of fact, name a top 20 fighter he's fought in his division that would warrant him a fight with anyone of the top middleweights?

Proksa is top 10 and Look what happened to him

[mathed]

Or how about the guys at 160 step up and fight him. You're obviously being sarcastic because you know its true

I'm not being sarcastic, I do think he is being avoided and it appears for good reason.

Meanwhile 37 year old Sergio wasting time fighting Murray

Well, this is what it is, the main guy at 160 who earned his way to the top fighting an undefeated guy in the top 10 at MW in his first fight back home in like 15 years. Does him fighting Murray mean that he only chose to fight Murray because he was ducking Golovkin? If you can prove that to me then I'll have nothing to say about it but the way it looks to me is, Sergio has fought 3 or 4 of the top 10 ranked guys at 160 (including Murray).

I can't honestly say the same thing for Golovkin but you can attribute that to the fact that Golovkin is too good, too high risk or that Martinez looks vulnerable enough at 37 years old for guys to want to fight him in hopes of an easy win. I don't want to judge but that wouldn't be the same thing as trying to cherry pick a top win over an old man would it?

Either blame Sergio for not looking good enough or Golovkin for looking too good but tossing blame right and left still isn't getting Golovkin the fights he needs, making moves, however, just might.

[simms601]

Who's getting ducked more than Golovkin then?

Whose ducking him? Honestly, what has he done as a Professional that would warrant him a fight with the top guy? I mean really??? He fought a guy who had like 14 or 15 professional fights, zero ranking at middleweight, let alone by the WBA for his title fight. Then he fought Kassim Ouma in his first defense, then Simon who was coming off of a lose prior to facing GG. After that he fought another guy with like 7 losses and wasn't ranked, then he fought a southpaw on HBO, then Rosado and Ishida, two Jr. Middleweights, neither ranked at middle weight, neither ranked by the WBA. Quillin, Geale and Chavez all said they'd fight GGG. They're not so quick to make those fights, they keep screaming Martinez but this guy has yet to fight a TOP 10 fighter. You can't find one on his resume. Hell, he could even fight the likes of Brian Vera or Andy Lee, at least those guys are ranked in the top 20, or even Rubio, Sturm or Macklin. Lemeiux is still there, so is Fernando Guerrero, Anthony Mundine and the guy Quillin beat for his title. Give me one damn fighter in the Top 20 and I'll be satisfied. Robert Guerrero isn't deserving of a fight with Mayweather in my opinion, but **** at least he fought two top 20 guys.

[simms601]

Proksa is top 10 and Look what happened to him

LOL, you must be referring to the WBA rankings? What a joke! The WBA has Ishida ranked in their top 15 and he's never even won a fight at middleweight. Proksa isn't even rated Top 20.

[ShoulderRoll]

Golovkin could just go the Hopkins route and defend his title 20 times before a dumb welterweight star thinks he's shot and gives him the chance. I mean, it made Hopkins a legend.

That's a good option. Just start racking up defenses (against real middleweights not 154 pounders) until some of the big names sign to fight him.

Maybe try to break Hopkins' record.

[Russian Crushin]

Well, this is what it is, the main guy at 160 who earned his way to the top fighting an undefeated guy in the top 10 at MW in his first fight back home in like 15 years. Does him fighting Murray mean that he only chose to fight Murray because he was ducking Golovkin? If you can prove that to me then I'll have nothing to say about it but the way it looks to me is, Sergio has fought 3 or 4 of the top 10 ranked guys at 160 (including Murray).

I can't honestly say the same thing for Golovkin but you can attribute that to the fact that Golovkin is too good, too high risk or that Martinez looks vulnerable enough at 37 years old for guys to want to fight him in hopes of an easy win. I don't want to judge but that wouldn't be the same thing as trying to cherry pick a top win over an old man would it?

Either blame Sergio for not looking good enough or Golovkin for looking too good but tossing blame right and left still isn't getting Golovkin the fights he needs, making moves, however, just might.

Sergio earned his way and in return decides to give fights to those who havent

The means an

[HeroBando]

LOL, you must be referring to the WBA rankings? What a joke! The WBA has Ishida ranked in their top 15 and he's never even won a fight at middleweight. Proksa isn't even rated Top 20.

He was Ring top 10

[Russian Crushin]

Whose ducking him? Honestly, what has he done as a Professional that would warrant him a fight with the top guy? I mean really??? He fought a guy who had like 14 or 15 professional fights, zero ranking at middleweight, let alone by the WBA for his title fight. Then he fought Kassim Ouma in his first defense, then Simon who was coming off of a lose prior to facing GG. After that he fought another guy with like 7 losses and wasn't ranked, then he fought a southpaw on HBO, then Rosado and Ishida, two Jr. Middleweights, neither ranked at middle weight, neither ranked by the WBA. Quillin, Geale and Chavez all said they'd fight GGG. They're not so quick to make those fights, they keep screaming Martinez but this guy has yet to fight a TOP 10 fighter. You can't find one on his resume. Hell, he could even fight the likes of Brian Vera or Andy Lee, at least those guys are ranked in the top 20, or even Rubio, Sturm or Macklin. Lemeiux is still there, so is Fernando Guerrero, Anthony Mundine and the guy Quillin beat for his title. Give me one damn fighter in the Top 20 and I'll be satisfied. Robert Guerrero isn't deserving of a fight with Mayweather in my opinion, but **** at least he fought two top 20 guys.

At least you didnt put Zbik!

[HeroBando]

Whose ducking him? Honestly, what has he done as a Professional that would warrant him a fight with the top guy? I mean really??? He fought a guy who had like 14 or 15 professional fights, zero ranking at middleweight, let alone by the WBA for his title fight. Then he fought Kassim Ouma in his first defense, then Simon who was coming off of a lose prior to facing GG. After that he fought another guy with like 7 losses and wasn't ranked, then he fought a southpaw on HBO, then Rosado and Ishida, two Jr. Middleweights, neither ranked at middle weight, neither ranked by the WBA. Quillin, Geale and Chavez all said they'd fight GGG. They're not so quick to make those fights, they keep screaming Martinez but this guy has yet to fight a TOP 10 fighter. You can't find one on his resume. Hell, he could even fight the likes of Brian Vera or Andy Lee, at least those guys are ranked in the top 20, or even Rubio, Sturm or Macklin. Lemeiux is still there, so is Fernando Guerrero, Anthony Mundine and the guy Quillin beat for his title. Give me one damn fighter in the Top 20 and I'll be satisfied. Robert Guerrero isn't deserving of a fight with Mayweather in my opinion, but **** at least he fought two top 20 guys.

Quillin might fight him sometime later, when GGG builds up his name like SHO undercard Pete did
Geale dropped his belt when mandated to fight him
Njikam did the same
Mundine passed on fighting him for the vacant WBA belt
Sturm ducked him for years
Murray, Macklin passed
Barker's promoter won't let him fight him
Rubio passed on the january date
Lemieux, Lee, lmao