are u ******? roy jones and its not close
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostOh yeah ,the excuse that Hopkins was still a 5 year old child who had just come out of a day care center.
Both Jones and Hopkins had the same amount of championship bout experience: ZERO. It was both of their first major shot at a title, which was the vacant IBF MW title.
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Originally posted by letsgobrady View Postthats whats up for them but who was hopkins?even now bernard is mainly considered a great fighter because he is still fighting not because he is beating the best. not so long ago alot of people felt like bernard fought smaller fighters and fighters he knew he could beat
Pavlik, Pascal, Cloud were some of the best fighters when he fought them. Cloud was the 4th-5th best LHW and that was the only available fight for him at the moment. Pascal was The Ring champion, which is the absolute best ranking you can have in a weight class. Pavlik was The Ring MW champion who wanted to come up regardless to fight Calzaghe, but Calzaghe ducked him. Not to mention Hopkins was underdog against all 3 of these guys.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostHopkins is beating the best right now.
Pavlik, Pascal, Cloud were some of the best fighters when he fought them. Cloud was the 4th-5th best LHW and that was the only available fight for him at the moment. Pascal was The Ring champion, which is the absolute best ranking you can have in a weight class. Pavlik was The Ring MW champion who wanted to come up regardless to fight Calzaghe, but Calzaghe ducked him. Not to mention Hopkins was underdog against all 3 of these guys.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostBaldomir was the RING champ when Floyd beat him though, and you discredited him. Really what has Pascal done besides beat Dawson??? Equally, Baldomir never did much aside from beating Judah when Judah was lineal.
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its definitely roy. but its not the wash ppl seem to think it is. toney is his biggest win, hopkins comes next. but the other guys, yea floyd beat better fighters with the exception of mcallum but the version roy beat was far from prime.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostBaldomir was the RING champ when Floyd beat him though, and you discredited him. Really what has Pascal done besides beat Dawson and Diaconu??? Equally, Baldomir never did much aside from beating Judah when Judah was lineal.
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