All Time Great Or Great For His Era?

[Truth]

What fighters from the past 20 years can truly be called all time greats? I read an article recently that got me thinking on this matter.

heres an example of the kind of question I'm asking here...

Is Roy Jones Jr. really an ALL time great? Or was he simply great for his generation?


So for this thread, I'd like boxingscene users to list fighters from the past 20 years they consider ALL time great, not just greats for their generation.

I think this should be an interesting thread

[IronDanHamza]

All time greats who were active between from 1993-present (Not for what they did in that time span, just who had a fight in that time span)

Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Bernard Hopkins
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Juan Manuel Marquez
James Toney
Mike McCallum

Ricardo Lopez possibly.

Think that's it, IMO. May have missed somone.

[bojangles1987]

Well, the greatest of an era are ATG because they were the best of their era. Anyone who argues that Roy or Hopkins or Mayweather or Pacquiao wouldn't be great in any era are probably hating on that fighter. They are all great, great fighters.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

All time greats who were active between from 1993-present (Not for what they did in that time span, just who had a fight in that time span)

Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Bernard Hopkins
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Juan Manuel Marquez
James Toney
Mike McCallum

Ricardo Lopez possibly.

Think that's it, IMO. May have missed somone.

I would take off Toney and McCallum. Great fighters but not ATG.

Ricardo Lopez "possibly"? I think it's safe to say he's an ATG.

[IronDanHamza]

I would take off Toney and McCallum. Great fighters but not ATG.

Ricardo Lopez "possibly"? I think it's safe to say he's an ATG.

I think his skills are great.

I'm not sure if his resume is great.

I would certainly rank Toney and McCallum over Lopez albeit there is an argument for them not being ATG's although I'd imagine they both would make my Top 100 if I had one.

[BennyST]

I would take off Toney and McCallum. Great fighters but not ATG.

Ricardo Lopez "possibly"? I think it's safe to say he's an ATG.

I think it's safe to say McCallum and Toney are greats too. Much, much tougher competition, bigger wins, more divisions and more champs beaten. What's not to dig?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I think his skills are great.

I'm not sure if his resume is great.

I would certainly rank Toney and McCallum over Lopez albeit there is an argument for them not being ATG's although I'd imagine they both would make my Top 100 if I had one.

I think it's safe to say McCallum and Toney are greats too. Much, much tougher competition, bigger wins, more divisions and more champs beaten. What's not to dig?

Ricardo Lopez is only the 3rd fighter in the history of boxing to retire undefeated. He fought 52 times and defended his title a record 26 times.

I think it's safe to say he's an ATG....lol

[The Big Dunn]

I think its more difficult for great fighters of this era to be all time greats because of the increased numbers of titles and weight classes. If greatness is achieved at 154 or 168, well years ago you wouldn't of had that opportunity-its either 147, 160, or 175.

There is alsdo the PED aspect of modern boxing that must be factored when discussing certain fighters like a holyfield or a mosley.

Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez SR.
Roy Jones Jr
James Toney
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Bernard Hopkins
Marco Antonio Barrera
Juan Manuel Marquez
Ricardo Lopez
Ivan Calderon

[Kagami Taiga]

I would take off Toney and McCallum. Great fighters but not ATG.

Ricardo Lopez "possibly"? I think it's safe to say he's an ATG.

both toney and mccallum have better resumes than lopez. but i agree lopez should be included. but u cant include lopez and then exclude those two. i like dans list. honorable mentions are guys like oscar, shane, vlad. on the cusp but im not sure how id rank them

[IronDanHamza]

I think it's safe to say McCallum and Toney are greats too. Much, much tougher competition, bigger wins, more divisions and more champs beaten. What's not to dig?

You have some text under your name saying "I am a troll. Peroid."

I just noticed mine says "I got no boxing knowledge".

Judging by the eloquence, I'm going to guess it's Raskat

If anyone can let me know how to have it removed please let me know.

Sorry to side track the thread TS.

Good thread, by the way. I see the point you're making.