Comments Thread For: Pianeta: I Will Shock The World, Knock Klitschko Out!

[hweightblogger]

A points system doesn't work, look at boxrec

The Boxrec calculation is crap. They have only an approximate idea how to rate boxers. My system is far better. Just the fact alone that they have Ali at #1 shows you that it's bad.

I have a completely different system than BoxRec for a very good reason. In fact: I suspect that they twist and spin it just to keep Ali at #1. As a side effect they have Max Baer above George Foreman and Schmeling above Holmes, which is equally ridiculous.

The 90's was a much more stacked HW division with better all round talent

1) 90s > Ali's era for sure.
2) During Lennox' times experts were b*tching about the poor talent pool, too. Experts and fans b*tch about the "dire state of the heavyweights" since 18xx.

He comes up with nonsense rules about triads and 200x2

1) 200x2 is not a nonsense rule but the official definition of heavyweight. And by the way: 200x2 bootlicks Ali. 200x2 is not unfair to Ali but unfair to modern HWs, because no HW championships takes place at such a low weight nowadays.

2) Triads ("A vs B vs C vs A") are the answer to the nonsense that "In previous eras fighters use to fight each other more. Now they duck each other". The opposite is true.

[Hitman932]

Oh no you didn't.. I will find it you lying SOB

Considering the fact that two weeks ago you were 100% convinced that David Price was the next great HW champ I don't think anyone with half a brain will take your opinion on Heavyweight fighters seriously.

[LacedUp]

Considering the fact that two weeks ago you were 100% convinced that David Price was the next great HW champ I don't think anyone with half a brain will take your opinion on Heavyweight fighters seriously.

Piss off you're miserable sob. No one cares what you think.

[hweightblogger]

Piss off you're miserable sob. No one cares what you think.

Let's take for example the other Pianeta thread, where you posted, quote: "Mormeck who was a fat bum when Wlad fought him".

Now let's make a visual comparison to the greaeaeatest fight of Ali:

Rumble in the jungle:



THAT'S what I am talking about. You live in some fantasy land, where Mormeck (216 lbs, 6 world title wins) is a fat bum, yet Ali (216 lbs) was an out-of-the-world athlete fighting against an out-of-the-world athlete Foreman (220 lbs, 3 world title wins).

Mormeck vs Wlad (which was merely a stay busy fight) featured far more athleticity and heavyweight'ness and resume'ness (13 combined world title wins vs 23 combined world title wins) than Ali vs Foreman, yet in the world of Klitschko haters Ali vs Foreman is a proof of the greatness of Ali's era, yet Wlad vs Mormeck is a proof of the direness of Wlad's era.

Wake up.

[Jam Jars]

Let's take for example the other Pianeta thread, where you posted, quote: "Mormeck who was a fat bum when Wlad fought him".

Now let's make a visual comparison to the greaeaeatest fight of Ali:

Rumble in the jungle:



THAT'S what I am talking about. You live in some fantasy land, where Mormeck (216 lbs, 6 world title wins) is a fat bum, yet Ali (216 lbs) was an out-of-the-world athlete fighting against an out-of-the-world athlete Foreman (220 lbs, 3 world title wins).

Mormeck vs Wlad (which was merely a stay busy fight) featured far more athleticity and heavyweight'ness and resume'ness (13 combined world title wins vs 23 combined world title wins) than Ali vs Foreman, yet in the world of Klitschko haters Ali vs Foreman is a proof of the greatness of Ali's era, yet Wlad vs Mormeck is a proof of the direness of Wlad's era.

Wake up.

You a seriously ******ed saying Wlad and Mormeck were better all around fighters than Ali and Foreman. Old Foreman would have KO'd prime Mormeck. That crap you just wrote proves your points system is utter crap.

[hweightblogger]

I give you another example of you Klitschko haters completely misjudge Wlad vs Pianeta. In the whole history of heavyweight boxing (since 18xx) ONLY 1 TIME before Wlad someone has won against an undefeated southpaw in a world championship (Foreman vs Moorer).

Undefeated opponents are unpredictable.
Southpaws are dangerous.
Undefeated southpaws are the most dangerous opponents.

Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson not once faced a southpaw in a world championship fight. In fact: Lennox Lewis dropped his belt to not face Chris Byrd. Ali did it only 2x (against bum Richard Dunn and cruiser Mildenberger 195 lbs).

[Jam Jars]

I give you another example of you Klitschko haters completely misjudge Wlad vs Pianeta. In the whole history of heavyweight boxing (since 18xx) ONLY 1 TIME before Wlad someone has won against an undefeated southpaw in a world championship (Foreman vs Moorer).

Undefeated opponents are unpredictable.
Southpaws are dangerous.
Undefeated southpaws are the most dangerous opponents.

Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson not once faced a southpaw in a world championship fight. In fact: Lennox Lewis dropped his belt to not face Chris Byrd. Ali did it only 2x (against bum Richard Dunn and cruiser Mildenberger 195 lbs).

See you've got to make ****** rules. The southpaw has got to be undefeated, it doesn't matter who the southpaw has fought or how good he is, if he's got a zero it means more. LOL you're a fool.

By the way there can't have been any undefeated southpaws other than Moorer in a championship fight, if there was he'd be undefeated or dropped the belt before losing. So that stat is worthless.

[hweightblogger]

You a seriously ******ed saying Wlad and Mormeck were better all around fighters than Ali and Foreman. Old Foreman would have KO'd prime Mormeck. That crap you just wrote proves your points system is utter crap.

And again you are fantasizing. Neither did I use any point system, nor did I rate Foreman's heavyweight whole-career-resume higher than Mormeck's, nor did I claim that Foreman wouldn't have KOed Mormeck.

My post was about what a "fat bum" Mormeck allegedly was and why AliFants can never escape their rabbit hole they sit in: Because they NEVER LOOK, instead they ALWAYS FANTASIZE about the glorious past and are STUCK in childhood memories.

And your reaction proves again my point: What is considered now a proof of a "dire state of the HW division" beats Ali vs Foreman out of the water when it comes to athleticity (Wlad/Mormeck compared to Foreman/Ali), resume-at-bout'ness (nearly twice as many title wins), weight (24 pounds more) and PERFORMANCE (faster pace, faster KO). Just imagine Wlad would have rope-a-doped the whole fight against Mormeck. Klitschko haters would get epileptic seizures how BORING Wlad kills the sport.

That's how much the division has changed: What was considered a hallmark of an era (Ali vs Foreman) would be nowadays a pretty unathletic, pretty light bout, pretty boring and possibly even a proof of a terrible era.

That's how much the division changed: Wlad's stay busy fights > Ali's hallmark fights.

[Jam Jars]

And again you are fantasizing. Neither did I use any point system, nor did I rate Foreman's heavyweight whole-career-resume higher than Mormeck's, nor did I claim that Foreman wouldn't have KOed Mormeck.

My post was about what a "fat bum" Mormeck allegedly was and why AliFants can never escape their rabbit hole they sit in: Because they NEVER LOOK, instead they ALWAYS FANTASIZE about the glorious past and are STUCK in childhood memories.

And your reaction proves again my point: What is considered now a proof of a "dire state of the HW division" beats Ali vs Foreman out of the water when it comes to athleticity (Wlad/Mormeck compared to Foreman/Ali), resume-at-bout'ness (nearly twice as many title wins), weight (24 pounds more) and PERFORMANCE (faster pace, faster KO). Just imagine Wlad would have rope-a-doped the whole fight against Mormeck. Klitschko haters would get epileptic seizures how BORING Wlad kills the sport.

That's how much the division has changed: What was considered a hallmark of an era (Ali vs Foreman) would be nowadays a pretty unathletic, pretty light bout, pretty boring and possibly even a proof of a terrible era.

That's how much the division changed: Wlad's stay busy fights > Ali's hallmark fights.

Tell me the undefeated HW southpaws that were in a championship fight besides Moorer.

[hweightblogger]

By the way there can't have been any undefeated southpaws other than Moorer in a championship fight, if there was he'd be undefeated or dropped the belt before losing. So that stat is worthless.

Yeah, in the world of Klitschko haters it's surely a sign of greatness if you only fight previously-defeated orthodox opponents. Probably the more KOlosses the better, too.