Comments Thread For: Pianeta: I Will Shock The World, Knock Klitschko Out!

[DeadLikeMe]

Hahaha, I bet no Klitschko hater would use the term "emotional" had Wlad fought McCall II. Instead they would use terms like "*****e era", "toilet bowl of an era" and "analogue to whale vomit" had Wlad the same record like Lennox. Wlad would not "have avenged his loss against MCall" but "Wlad would have lost against a drug addict who did only come to get his pay check the second time around."

THAT's how modern fans would have seen it had boxrec and Youtube been around in Lennox' times.

Even the drugs aside: McCall's record (24-5) when he faced Lennox for the first time was WORSE than Pianeta's now. Lennox LOST to a guy with a worse record than Pianeta's (let alone that Pianeta won against MCall, albeit an older version). Even a normal avenging (against an emotionally stable McCall) would not help Lennox resume much.

Take off your haters' glasses. This is one of the best HW eras ever, enjoy it while it lasts.

[joe strong]

Hahaha, I bet no Klitschko hater would use the term "emotional" had Wlad fought McCall II. Instead they would use terms like "*****e era", "toilet bowl of an era" and "analogue to whale vomit" had Wlad the same record like Lennox. Wlad would not "have avenged his loss against MCall" but "Wlad would have lost against a drug addict who did only come to get his pay check the second time around."

THAT's how modern fans would have seen it had boxrec and Youtube been around in Lennox' times.

Even the drugs aside: McCall's record (24-5) when he faced Lennox for the first time was WORSE than Pianeta's now. Lennox LOST to a guy with a worse record than Pianeta's (let alone that Pianeta won against MCall, albeit an older version).

Take off your haters' glasses. This is one of the best HW eras ever, enjoy it while it lasts.

mccall got beat early in his career by some good heavyweights. the 90s was an era where everyone fought each other to get in line for a shot at the big 3(lennox, tyson & holyfield)that's why fighters have losses on their records not like today's protected fighters. the modern boxing fan thinks if a guy loses twice he's a bum or sucks. it's too bad they are so blind. most of the fighters now build up their records fighting bums & then beat a few journeymen & then they get a title shot. most of the modern boxing fans don't even know the WBO was not a world title until 2004...anyone holding the WBO title before then was not a world champion...

[joe strong]

Don't trust your eyes. Trust Don King!

if you guys want to see a good clip of the mccall post fight interview & a little history leading up to the fight by bert sugar & lennox load up my mccall\lennox 2 fight. i added it to the end of the fight...

[The Hammer]

if you guys want to see a good clip of the mccall post fight interview & a little history leading up to the fight by bert sugar & lennox load up my mccall\lennox 2 fight. i added it to the end of the fight...

Your videos are of very poor quality, Joe.

What part of "we don't want to see them" do you not understand?

the WBO was not a world title until 2004...anyone holding the WBO title before then was not a world champion...

How many time have you posted that, over 1000?

Do you realize only people who are very ****** keep repeating something over and over again like you do?

[hweightblogger]

mccall got beat early in his career by some good heavyweights. the 90s was an era where everyone fought each other to get in line for a shot at the big 3(lennox, tyson & holyfield)that's why fighters have losses on their records not like today's protected fighters. the modern boxing fan thinks if a guy loses twice he's a bum or sucks. it's too bad they are so blind. most of the fighters now build up their records fighting bums & then beat a few journeymen & then they get a title shot.

No, that was Ali's era, check for example Ken Norton's record when he got a shot at Ali.

[RedLights]

anyone wlad fights he gets criticized... simple as that

[joe strong]

Your videos are of very poor quality, Joe.

What part of "we don't want to see them" do you not understand?

How many time have you posted that, over 1000?

Do you realize only people who are very ****** keep repeating something over and over again like you do?

lol! maybe YOU don't want to watch them & don't really care. if they want to argue over it i'm giving them an opportunity to get the facts. who is the one who bumps threads from years ago? who cares if they are poor quality? watch them once & delete them. they are from DVDs & VCR from 10-30 years ago. old fights on youtube & many other posters fights are not the best quality either. i don't see most of the fights i posted anywhere here or on youtube, etc. i'm not forcing anyone to watch them but one thing i do know is you are still bitter about getting beat by me in boxing archives. you have posted some pretty "light in the loafers" stuff in the past but that is your business & i'm not going to throw that in your face. i'm happy with my life & am not ashamed of who i am or what i've done but the internet is your entire world & everyone here can see that. you amuse me tunney. why don't you stop worrying about what i'm doing & just move on. i'm sorry i don't own any klitschko underwear or have any posters of the klitschkos naked on my wall but if that's your thing then have at her. trying to insult me is a waste of your time tunney. when are you going to figure this out?

[joe strong]

No, that was Ali's era, check for example Ken Norton's record when he got a shot at Ali.

yes in the 70s, 80s & 90s everyone fought each other but you were discussing mccall's record...i'm not talking 70s or 80s...

[hweightblogger]

mccall got beat early in his career by some good heavyweights. the 90s was an era where everyone fought each other to get in line for a shot at the big 3(lennox, tyson & holyfield)that's why fighters have losses on their records

Yeah so? No you are converting a failure into a virtue:
"McCall before facing Lennox had 5 losses on his record including Buster Douglas, Orlin Norris and Tucker. McCall is a good fighter"

WTH? How in the world do the 5 losses give McCall a better record than Pianeta who is undefeated?

It's the same bizarre logic like with Ali fantasizers: Ali LOSES to Norton hence Norton "must be a hell of a fighter" hence avenging the loss to Norton makes Ali an out-of-the-world fighter.

Idiotic. Yet typical.

Had Wlad fought McCall then it would have been a proof of a dire era.
Had Wlad lost to McCall then it would be a proof of Wlad being a bum.
Had Wlad rematched emotionally collapsing McCall then it would be a proof of the worst era of all time.

Lennox fighting a 24-5 opponent is not better than Wlad fighting an unbeaten 28-0 opponent, no matter how much you want to spin it.

Oliver McCall (24-5) got the Lennox fight after beating Dan Murphy (41-12) and Art Card (9-6) and THIS is then called a fantastic era incomparable to Wlad's era.

You seriously need to wake up, haters.

he 90s was an era where everyone fought each other to get in line for a shot at the big 3(lennox, tyson & holyfield)that's why fighters have losses on their records

You ****** that statement off your head. I just checked what I call "triads" = how many fighters fought each other e.g. Lennox Lewis vs David Tua vs Hasim Rahman and Wlad (already now!!!) has approximately as many triads (60 all weights, 58 at 200x2) as Lennox' era (68 all weights, 61 at 200x2). Nowadays fighters fight each other more often than in Lennox' era.

You good-old-time-nostalgists live in some weight lala-land, unable to see what is in front of your eyes: This is an excellent HW era and what Wlad is doing is unprecedented in heavyweight history both regarding the choice of opponents (southpaws, undefeated etc) and performance (KO wins etc).

[hweightblogger]

yes in the 70s, 80s & 90s everyone fought each other but you were discussing mccall's record...i'm not talking 70s or 80s...

Yeah, for example Frazier fighting Sonny Liston and Foreman fighting Shavers and Norton fighting Chuvalo.... wait!

yes in the 70s, 80s & 90s everyone fought each other but you were discussing mccall's record...i'm not talking 70s or 80s...

Wladimir also started in the 90s. So either you name a concrete fighter or stop fantasizing.

Ali had less triads (200x2) than Wlad has now. Ali's total triads (200x2 and below) are more because Wlad fights real heavyweight opponents not some sub-cruisers like Archie Moore.