Comments Thread For: Pianeta: I Will Shock The World, Knock Klitschko Out!

[edgarg]

Haha, but you are completely impartial on the Klischkos?! "It's OK, it's a stay busy fight. Mormeck, Thompson, Wach were all stay busy fights - it's OK - Povetkin is probably happening next. Nobody wants to fight them, that's why they are fighting these very good undefeated opponents" - You live in a dream world mate. and you know nothing about boxing.

Sorry for intruding here, but you have to admit that EVERY fight both Klitschkos have is a "stay busy" fight. It just happens to be that way, there is such a huge gap between them and the rest. Even when there were credible opponents they dealt with them the same way, instantly converting them into "bums". .

All the blather about Haye resulted in him boasting his way into a 50-50 money split. That's unheard of,and shows how far Klitschko went just to make this fight, which sad dreamers were sure would result in a Klitschko defeat. They weren't so interested in a Haye win as a Klitschko defeat........

They have avoided nobody, and if the opponents are now poor, Klitschko still has a business to run with set goals of 3 fights a year. They do good things with the money, and their business system is set up to expect and dispense that money.

Thats what they do, and although I can understand a grouch because of an unexciting matchup, I can't understand such vehemence and bitterness by people who never pay a cent to watch anything anyway.

I think that if King Kong appeared on the scene you'd all be pressuring Klitschko to fight him, just to see him destroyed. This kind of thinking is far out of range of normal.













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[vitali1999]

Why are people trying to compare Wlad's resume to Lewis's? It's nowhere near that good and never will be. Pianeta is garbage, Wlad kicked him out of the Thompson camp because he was so bad. Must have left quite the impression because now Wlad chooses to fight him. The Klitschko's choice of voluntary opponents are terrible.

Wladdy should retire after this and it looks like Vitali already has plans to since he still hasn't scheduled a fight and it's been six months since his last. Klitschkos are old and have nothing left to prove. And plus Stewart is dead. Klitchkos have kicked ass and reired alot of fighters but when your 36 and 41 and still fighting, you are just begging for a lose

[edgarg]

This makes zero sense.

You are contradicting yourself...

for people who contradict themselves it makes perfect sense....... It neednt be rational..

[ShamrockXpress]

WOW. Did you even read what I wrote?

Go back and read it again without your residual bias, and then re-edit your reply to mean an opposite to what you wrote, once you understand it.


You appear so blindly biased for the K bros that you interpreted my post to mean the opposite of what it plainly reads.

You said both Rahman and McCall were prime. I said how was McCall prime, where is the bias?

[edgarg]

Is that really the best you can come up with? I couldn't care less about their success and have criticized these guys way before any British hws were even on the scene.

Anyone who is a world champion, travels the world to defend his crown, fighting the best opponents and entertaining at the same time - remembering that I as a fan pay his purse, will get my respect. Wladimir fulfills none of those criteria.

Talking about legacies - what will you remember Wladimir for? Which fight has he got you biting your nails for? Sitting at the edge of your seat for? I would really like to know.

Sorry, they don't travel the world to defend their crowns etc. etc. thats a romantic ideallised conception which has no reality in fact. They will only go if it's absolutely unavoidable or if they want to see that part of the world, BUT...if the crowds and money are not there they won't go. It has always been like that, why should you expect a fighter to travel to Timbuktu to fight for a dollar when he can stay at home and get ten. Let the other guy come to where the champion is.

I've put it in the mot basic terms that ANYBODY should be able to understand-as long as he can count up to ten....

[edgarg]

its a contradiction to you, but not top everyone else.

Explanation - he wants to see Wlad fight these guys in the future which may be interesting fights BUT Wlad fights of the past versus weak opponents put him to sleep.


Future versus past, they are entirely different things.

It's nice that he has an "interpreter". just like any politician, who mouths all sorts of rubbish, and immediately has some one to pop up and explain that, "well ....he said that, but it isn't what he meant... he meant......let me see now, what did he mean...I'll have to ask him what he meant..."

[Simurgh]

Erm, no I am a fan of boxing, I don't worship one or two like you do. I watch loads of fights based on the criteria I already mentioned.

To repeat what I said - I support underdogs first and foremost, then the most exciting fighters, then british in that order. But why am I having to repeat this to you? Do you have difficulty understanding that someone can be a fan of boxing without worshipping one boxer? Let me know if you do, and I will paraphrase it for you again.


I am fascinated by Jack Johnson and 19th century fighters, purely in historical contexts they are so interesting - but that's clearly not in the way you are asking of me. I dont hero worship anyone, I am not a child.

Ok so you don't have the favorite fighter(s).

Most of the post you wrote are on Klitschkos for which you say are not too good. So you don't have the favorite fighter, but you have the fighter that you dislike the most (I won't say hate) and about whom you write all the time... I just don't get it. It's like a love/hate relationship.

What's the point. If I say here, tonight that all of your post are right and that "Klitschkos are clowns who should retire" what HW fights should I watch? Or any boxing fights that I should be excited about.

Answer me this - in your opinion who is the great active fighter today - in any division? Are they all bums with Klitschkos being the greatest bums of them all?

My perception of boxing is very different to yours. I don't want to be 'a fan of boxing' who writes 95% of his posts on fighters that he doesn't like at all.

[edgarg]

He did go one for one with Brewster, who wernt the best fighter ever, but he was on the same level as Rahman, who ktfo Lewis before being ktfo himself. Lewis also went one for one with Oliver McCall, who was a similar level to Brewster, except the version that Lewis beat was, no disrespect to McCall, a crackhead who had a breakdown mid fight and had to be saved by the ref from himself, not Lewis. Don't worry, we all no who you are

I remember the 2nd McCall fight, and I believe that right up to the fight McCall was in and out of the sanitarium, and had been taken out 6 weeks before the fight to train.. It was regarded as a shameful fight then, but Lewis was always very relentless when he was thwarted and wanted revenge on any terms, and pursued the fight. McCall had knocked him out in front of Lewis's home crowd, very embarrassing.

Its a mark of a great fighter to be relentless but in this case it was very inappropriate.

[vacon04]

Ehh??? Helenius? Pulev? Fury? Haye? Povetkin?

I would like Wlad to act like the HW champion of the world and fight people that are ranked and not people ranked below 50.

Helenius is injured, Fury keeps saying that he'll be ready in a couple of fights, Haye was already beaten and by a wide margin, and Povetkin keeps making excuses not to fight him. From all those guys I think the only possible fight is with Pulev.

[edgarg]

How was McCall prime in the rematch? He had a breakdown mid fight and the ref stepped in, how was he prime?

McCall from the beginning seemed to be dropping his hands. In between rounds he began walking around looking lost, and never threw a punch for at least a couple of rounds, and he was crying. Lewis was cautiously following him around, lashing out every so often. I think he felt that McCall was "paying possum", when in fact he was in another world. Mills Lane should have stopped it before, but I suppose he just couldn't believe that this was happening in a heavyweight title match.

My memory may be a little faulty here but It's pretty close.