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  • ßringer
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    #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    When has Mayweather fought a random WW? s In recent years outside of Marquez he's fought nothing but guys who were ranked at or near the top of the divison.

    Murray being at #7 is one of the most undeserving rankings I've ever seen. How he is in the Top 10 is a mystery.

    This is a joke of a fight and Mayweather would never have a fight as big as a joke as this is.

    "He's allowed atleast one slightly below P4P par fight"

    So what was Darren Barker? He wasn't and isn't even a Top 20 level MW let alone P4P.

    What was Dzinziruk? Tail end of the Top 10 at Jr MW.

    These aren't "P4P Par" fights.
    Dzinziruk's ranking may have been questionable, but his talent sure as hell wasn't. For my money, Dzinziruk is one of Martinez's best and most impressive victories.

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    • cixthree
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      #12
      Don't get me wrong fellas, I luv Serg but the double standards are so blatant it's laughable.
      Instead of just admitting it, people type paragraphs filled with excuses.

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      • Jloro
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        #13
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        When has Mayweather fought a random WW? s In recent years outside of Marquez he's fought nothing but guys who were ranked at or near the top of the divison.

        Murray being at #7 is one of the most undeserving rankings I've ever seen. How he is in the Top 10 is a mystery.

        This is a joke of a fight and Mayweather would never have a fight as big as a joke as this is.

        "He's allowed atleast one slightly below P4P par fight"

        So what was Darren Barker? He wasn't and isn't even a Top 20 level MW let alone P4P.

        What was Dzinziruk? Tail end of the Top 10 at Jr MW.

        These aren't "P4P Par" fights.
        If you read closely i said that's what mayweather would do In Martinez's current position. As in being 38 coming off surgery and a broken left hand Both of the people you named were undefeated at the time. Who would have been a better fight at that time? If Sergio was a welterweight he would go through Floyd's resume undefeated as well.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          Dzinziruk's ranking may have been questionable, but his talent sure as hell wasn't. For my money, Dzinziruk is one of Martinez's best and most impressive victories.
          I don't see how.

          He's a decently skilled fighter but what has he done in his career? Very little.

          I'm not saying it's Darren Barker level, it was a solid win it certainly isn't "P4P Par".

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            #15
            Originally posted by cixthree
            I'd rather u take time off than scape the bottom.
            Ah, the good old Mayweather vacation strategy. Only Mayweather fans prefer to see their favorite fighter not fight at all instead of keeping busy "because he would have beaten them anyway."

            What's a bigger disgrace? A fighter fighting a nobody, or a fighter fighting nobody?

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #16
              Originally posted by Jloro
              If you read closely i said that's what mayweather would do In Martinez's current position. As in being 38 coming off surgery and a broken left hand Both of the people you named were undefeated at the time. Who would have been a better fight at that time? If Sergio was a welterweight he would go through Floyd's resume undefeated as well.
              Who would have been a better fight than Darren Barker or Dzinzurik at the time?

              How about anyone in the Top 30 at MW?

              "Who would have been a better fight than Darren Barker"



              Anyone who hadn't had just one fight above domestic level and in that one fight which was at European level struggled badly.

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              • Jloro
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                #17
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Who would have been a better fight than Darren Barker or Dzinzurik at the time?

                How about anyone in the Top 30 at MW?

                "Who would have been a better fight than Darren Barker"



                Anyone who hadn't had just one fight above domestic level and in that one fight which was at European level struggled badly.
                Oh well. Maybe he should have just not fought for a year or two and then fight a past prime name fighter then take off for another year and then a similar level opponent. Then rinse and repeat over and over

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                • BafanaBafana
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by cixthree
                  Don't get me wrong fellas, I luv Serg but the double standards are so blatant it's laughable.
                  Instead of just admitting it, people type paragraphs filled with excuses.
                  You're forgetting that just a few months ago Martinez was considered one of the most avoided fighters in the world. Mayweather, by contrast, can pick and choose whoever he wants to fight (hardly anyone would turn down a Mayweather fight). Geale and Quillin both turned down Martinez before Barker was pickedd as a last resort. As it is Barker is immensely underrated as a middleweight.

                  Shamba Mitchell wasn't exactly a world class welterweight either when Floyd fought him.

                  Martinez has regularly been fighting 2-3 times per year; Mayweather has fought 4 times in the last five years (all of which were expensive PPVs).

                  Also I don't think Guerrero is a bad opponent, I just think it's a boring fight because I already know how the fight will go.

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                  • ItsTrue
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                    #19
                    Shout out to Bill Murray....hes got hollywood talking. Word on the street is that Entertainment tonight would be covering this fight. First time an Academy Award nom has been in a fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Who would have been a better fight than Darren Barker or Dzinzurik at the time?

                      How about anyone in the Top 30 at MW?

                      "Who would have been a better fight than Darren Barker"



                      Anyone who hadn't had just one fight above domestic level and in that one fight which was at European level struggled badly.
                      Wasn't Dzin forced on Martinez by HBO? Didnt he want Zbik instead or some type of ****? Im pretty sure you know the answer to this stuff.

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