Vitali's legacy

[BattlingNelson]

I know it was different times, But Patterson was the legitimate champ. But he ducked Liston like the plaque though, but fought much better opposition in his career than Vitali could ever hope to do.

I did mention earlier in this thread somewhere that I think Vitali's resume is better than Floyds. But it's a hard one.

Patterson was KO'ed twice by Liston in a single round. He was also KO'ed by Johansson who surely is not an ATG. Furthermore he was decked and had his hands full against a debutant.

Imagine if Vitali had such losses. Ha!

[JAB5239]

I posted yours and my own.

Bat thinks your list from post 576 is mine. To bright he's not.

[BattlingNelson]

Are you the biggest p*ssy on this site or what? You said he wouldn't make you ATG list but he'd be in the top 20. You keep badgering me for a list I wouldn't make because things get hazy after 20 (imo) but you're to cowardly to put forth any list whatsoever. Lol, pathetic!!

It's not my thread and ATG for me does not include the top 20 HW's remember?

[JAB5239]

Lol at your list with Wladimir, who has 3rd most defenses all time and 2nd longest reign all time in 17th place.

That says a lot about your mentality on the whole ATG heavyweight discussion and rankings.

And bwahahahahaha at Walcott being tied with Marciano!!!!!

I'm done. It's pointless. Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

Post your own list.

[LacedUp]

Patterson was KO'ed twice by Liston in a single round. He was also KO'ed by Johansson who surely is not an ATG. Furthermore he was decked and had his hands full against a debutant.

Imagine if Vitali had such losses. Ha!

True, but that was only during his championship reign, and he avenged the johansson loss. My point is, at least he gave it a go, though, as I said, he ducked Liston and wasn't even considered the best during his reign. Vitali only fought the best once, and also came up short.

[JAB5239]

It's not my thread and ATG for me does not include the top 20 HW's remember?

But you did say he'd be in your top 20. So stop being a punk and man up for a change, and post your list. I mean of course unless you truly are the hypocrite you come off as.

[BattlingNelson]

Bat thinks your list from post 576 is mine. To bright he's not.

I noticed that the list you posted in your thread and the list provided by LacedUp had different placings for Schmeling, but given the fact that you said that the list you posted was old, then I thought little of it. I noted that Patterson is roughly rated in the same place and having him above Vitali is a longshot.

[LacedUp]

Lol at your list with Wladimir, who has 3rd most defenses all time and 2nd longest reign all time in 17th place.

That says a lot about your mentality on the whole ATG heavyweight discussion and rankings.

And bwahahahahaha at Walcott being tied with Marciano!!!!!

I'm done. It's pointless. Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

First off, post your own damn list and put yourself out there. I have played around with Wlad's ranking a lot, but the top 15 is a hard one to crack. And he may have a lot of defenses. So what? You have to look at who he's defended against, and what they did. Half his resume is taken up by the Pianetas of today. Hardly impressive. Add to that his lack of overall excitement, big fights and especially overcoming odds - something he lacks entirely. His 4 biggest wins all came via boring decision. Hardly the stuff of legend.

And lol at your dig at Walcott. I'm sure you haven't ever seen him fight,

[Boxing Goat]

Lol mate. When did Vitali turn pro? '96? And he fought Lewis in what? 03? There was plenty of guys available for Vitali to fight.

And have you ever thought about this: Maybe Vitali should fight someone BEFORE Wlad fights them. And even if Wlad has beaten them, so what? They aren't the same person.

Fact is, that even outside Wlad, Vitali hasn't faced the best or even nearly the best. He's been fighting the Charrs and the Briggs'. I'm sorry, but that's not ATG material.

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I'll answer even though it's obviously useless.

Vitali fought at won a world title in 99'. He was a high risk, low reward opponent at the time and lost to Byrd by injury before the bigger fights came. He came back and fought his way back into contention and fought Lewis. We know what happened there, he gave Lewis all he could handle and lost by an unfortunate bad cut. After that, he beat the stuffing out of Sanders who was now the man to beat since Wladimir lost to him and the rematch with Lewis was refused. Then, he fights Williams, who also was a hot commodity and destroyed his career.

-fast forward almost 4 years-

Comes back and beats the #2 ranked heavyweight (behind only Wladimir), which was Peter and essentially ended his career as well.

Since that time he has been blatantly ducked by Valuev and Haye and by the time Haye decided to sack up, he had already been beaten soundly by Wladimir.

The Adamek fight was a mismatch but he was ranked 4th in the world and we all know #3 (Povkn) was in line for Wladimir so that fight could'nt happen.

Vitali has faced and beaten all willing dance partners that Wladimir didn't have lined up based on his 3 belts.

That's all he can do.

[JAB5239]

I noticed that the list you posted in your thread and the list provided by LacedUp had different placings for Schmeling, but given the fact that you said that the list you posted was old, then I thought little of it. I noted that Patterson is roughly rated in the same place and having him above Vitali is a longshot.

The same place as what? I don't even rate Patterson.

Now post your list, yellow bellied coward!