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  • LacedUp
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    #581
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    Klitards are terrified to post their own lists. But they have no problem nitpicking someone else's. These are real manly men we're talking about these d*ckriders.
    Whilst I don't doubt Bat's knowledge of the game, most Klitschko hardcore fans, like Wienerschnitzel, couldn't even mention 20 heavies from today let alone of all times. I have absolutely no respect for their opinion. This doesn't include Bat though.

    No shame in posting any list, heck, I change mine every damn week.

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      #582
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      I posted his from the history section.
      I cannot believe he has Patterson above Vitali. Add to that that he must have Vitali a lot further down the list to justify his ridicule.

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        #583
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        I cannot believe he has Patterson above Vitali. Add to that that he must have Vitali a lot further down the list to justify his ridicule.
        I know it was different times, But Patterson was the legitimate champ. But he ducked Liston like the plaque though, but fought much better opposition in his career than Vitali could ever hope to do.

        I did mention earlier in this thread somewhere that I think Vitali's resume is better than Floyds. But it's a hard one.

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        • JAB5239
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          #584
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          Don't make stuff up now. I clearly said that I don't have a list. I said that I'd have Vitali above Patterson and Schmeling on your (old) list. You didn't even bother to argue that.


          Why not post your list of HW's above Vitali? Can't it stand to public scrutiny?
          Are you the biggest p*ssy on this site or what? You said he wouldn't make you ATG list but he'd be in the top 20. You keep badgering me for a list I wouldn't make because things get hazy after 20 (imo) but you're to cowardly to put forth any list whatsoever. Lol, pathetic!!

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            #585
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            It's the honest truth. Dispute me on anything I fixed.
            There's no point. The only good/great fighters he was supposed to face have either been relatives, (Wladimir) scared, (Haye, Valuev) retired and/or old. (Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Foreman)

            You do realize that anyone else you think he should have faced during his era had either actively not fought him or was beaten soundly by Wladimir already? He can only beat those who are in front of him and he has done that. Based on overall accomplishment, he's an ATG in my opinion.

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              #586
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              I posted his from the history section.
              Who's list did you post?

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                #587
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                There's no point. The only good/great fighters he was supposed to face have either been relatives, (Wladimir) scared, (Haye, Valuev) retired and/or old. (Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Foreman)

                You do realize that anyone else you think he should have faced during his era had either actively not fought him or was beaten soundly by Wladimir already? He can only beat those who are in front of him and he has done that. Based on overall accomplishment, he's an ATG in my opinion.
                Lol mate. When did Vitali turn pro? '96? And he fought Lewis in what? 03? There was plenty of guys available for Vitali to fight.

                And have you ever thought about this: Maybe Vitali should fight someone BEFORE Wlad fights them. And even if Wlad has beaten them, so what? They aren't the same person.

                Fact is, that even outside Wlad, Vitali hasn't faced the best or even nearly the best. He's been fighting the Charrs and the Briggs'. I'm sorry, but that's not ATG material.

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                  #588
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  Who's list did you post?
                  I posted yours and my own.

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                    #589
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                    There's no point. The only good/great fighters he was supposed to face have either been relatives, (Wladimir) scared, (Haye, Valuev) retired and/or old. (Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Foreman)

                    You do realize that anyone else you think he should have faced during his era had either actively not fought him or was beaten soundly by Wladimir already? He can only beat those who are in front of him and he has done that. Based on overall accomplishment, he's an ATG in my opinion.

                    Being beaten by Wlad already means nothing if they're still rated contenders. And ole Vits missed a slew of them!

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                    • Boxing Goat
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                      #590
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      1. Ali
                      2. Louis
                      3. Johnson
                      4. Lewis (tied with Foreman)
                      5. Foreman (tied with Lewis)
                      6. Holmes
                      7. Holyfield
                      8. Dempsey
                      9. Liston
                      10. Marciano (tied with Walcott)
                      11. JJ Walcott (tied with Marciano)
                      12. Frazier
                      13. Tyson
                      14. Charles
                      15. J. Jeffries
                      16. Tunney
                      17. W Klitschko
                      18. Patterson
                      19. Langford (Should prob be higher but just couldn't justify it)
                      20. Wills
                      21. Jeanette
                      22. Baer
                      23. Schemling
                      24. Braddock
                      25. Norton/ J Corbett

                      Here's mine. Now everybody pull yours up and get it out in the open.
                      Lol at your list with Wladimir, who has 3rd most defenses all time and 2nd longest reign all time in 17th place.

                      That says a lot about your mentality on the whole ATG heavyweight discussion and rankings.

                      And bwahahahahaha at Walcott being tied with Marciano!!!!!

                      I'm done. It's pointless. Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

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