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  • joe strong
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    #31
    Originally posted by BennyST
    Considering that he'd been a top ranked contender for years, fought and beat former champions and was clearly world class and had some great qualities, when he put in a consistent training camp, that statement is just inane. They are not remotely similar. Douglas, at his best, is still better than every single heavyweight out there today not named Klitschko. People overlook everything he did, mistakenly thinking he came out of nowhere and had no skill. He'd been around for a long time, fought a lot of top opposition and shown some great skill and fought very well for years leading up to the Tyson fight.
    Douglas lost to tony tucker for the vacant IBF belt. He then strung together a few wins including wins over former champion berbick & oliver mccall right before his shot at tyson...

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    • LacedUp'sDream
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      #32
      Originally posted by simonihirst
      A silly fight. No one cares about Pianeta. Wlad has better options such as Solis (who for those who disagree is at least better than this bum), Pulev, Povetkin, Helenius, Fury, Adamek, even Wilder would be better than this joke. The situation with Povetkin is ridiculous. There needs to be more done to stop TV power. If it isnt organisations such as WBA agreeing ****** voluntary defenses, its promoters and TV contracts stopping the fights people actually want to see!
      Pulev,Helenius and Povetkin are ranked no.1 in their prospective rankings,those fights will happen.Fury is 1 possibly 2 fights away from mandatory at VK,if VK sticks about,that fight will surely happen.none of these guys are gonna fight a Klitschko for 100k when they can fight for 25% of all revenue.you know all this already.

      Originally posted by WladimirK
      Excellent post.
      Kind Regards.I'd like some help with my profile,pics,alerts for replies etc those kinda things,I'll PM you.

      Originally posted by Harry Balls
      Are you saying Buster Douglas and Pianeta are on the same level?

      I'm probably just as big a Wlad fan as you or Freedom or whoever. I'd love to see him break every record out there. I wont excuse every single move he makes though. I'm not a bumsniffer, I'm a boxingfan.


      Vitali and Wladimir should not have the same responsibilities.
      Vitali is an old man.

      Wladimir is as good as he's ever been.
      No youre missing my point.Any heavyweight has a shot.To say Pianeta has no pedigree is horse****,he's undoubted pedigree,whether its World or European wont be proved in the ring against Wladimir though,he's simply along for exposure IMO as was Charr and Wach.

      Originally posted by BennyST
      There isn't a fight out there that's not a stay busy fight.

      Who's Pianeta anyway? He any good? Honestly never even heard the name.
      He's a recognised name within Germany.

      Originally posted by BennyST
      Considering that he'd been a top ranked contender for years, fought and beat former champions and was clearly world class and had some great qualities, when he put in a consistent training camp, that statement is just inane. They are not remotely similar. Douglas, at his best, is still better than every single heavyweight out there today not named Klitschko. People overlook everything he did, mistakenly thinking he came out of nowhere and had no skill. He'd been around for a long time, fought a lot of top opposition and shown some great skill and fought very well for years leading up to the Tyson fight.
      I wasnt comparing them.

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      • Barry Halls
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        #33
        For what it's worth, i watched Sosnowski-Pianeta when this fight first had rumors about happening.

        I scored it 115-113 Sosnowski.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          No matter who the Klitschkos fight, some people will whine and moan about it. It's sickening.

          Francesco Pianeta is a good fighter. He's 28-0, 6'5", age 28, a southpaw, a former world amateur youth champion, and has never been down in a fight.

          I'm looking forward to seeing Wladimir fight again!


          Originally posted by DavidHaye'sToe
          Was Buster Douglas a no hoper against Tyson ? remind me who won that fight again please.Wlad is closing in on all kinds or records,jealousy and envy is a fother mucker right ?

          I can't wait to see Wlad fighting 3 times a year again,last year allowed the likes of Price,Pulev and Fury to progress and get the experience needed,I couldn't care less what bums get beat on by the bro's as long as they fight their mandatories and unifications down the line.Theyve cleared out the last wave and are awaiting the next line of would be challengers.

          Whether Vitali continues or not,which I hope he does,I'll be happy with a defining career,rather than a particular defining fight.Hopefully he sticks around and fights Fury though,I'd like to see him on his backside or retiring on his stool.
          Pianeta is no Douglas and Klit is laughably no Tyson either.

          Originally posted by Harry Balls
          Are you saying Buster Douglas and Pianeta are on the same level?

          I'm probably just as big a Wlad fan as you or Freedom or whoever. I'd love to see him break every record out there. I wont excuse every single move he makes though. I'm not a bumsniffer, I'm a boxingfan.


          Vitali and Wladimir should not have the same responsibilities.
          Vitali is an old man.

          Wladimir is as good as he's ever been.
          Respect given where respect is due.

          Originally posted by BennyST
          There isn't a fight out there that's not a stay busy fight.

          Who's Pianeta anyway? He any good? Honestly never even heard the name.
          The same with every Klit opponent.

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          • LacedUp
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            #35
            wlads last 4 fights by may 5th: Wach, Thompson, Mormeck & Pianeta. Perhaps the worst run of defenses by any HW champ in the past 30 years?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Andrew5550
              wlads last 4 fights by may 5th: Wach, Thompson, Mormeck & Pianeta. Perhaps the worst run of defenses by any HW champ in the past 30 years?
              Perhaps Wlad fights what's available. Such a shame we cannot just turn back time and let him KO Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield and Tyson. But you know, all the champs fought their share of lesser accomplished opposition.

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                #37
                I'm not a fan of this fight at all, but I'd rather wladimir fight someone, than sit around and be inactive. I think wladimir is an ATG fighter and I think we are lucky to see him be so active in his prime unlike some fighters. If he is waiting for fights with the more recognised guys I'd rather him fight undefeated fighters than old rehashed challengers like oquendo. If he fights povetkin then pulev after this then I think we can say 2013 will have been a productive year

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                • LacedUp
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WladimirK
                  Perhaps Wlad fights what's available. Such a shame we cannot just turn back time and let him KO Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield and Tyson. But you know, all the champs fought their share of lesser accomplished opposition.
                  Don't count out Holyfield just yet! Doubt he would have won against the others you mentioned but that's besides the point. As stated previously in this thread, I agree the talent pool is not that deep. But he could have made fights with the likes of boytsov (before pulev), pulev, helenius, Fury, Povetkin, Arreola just once in his last four. But he's chosen not to.

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                  • Ravens Fan
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BennyST
                    Considering that he'd been a top ranked contender for years, fought and beat former champions and was clearly world class and had some great qualities, when he put in a consistent training camp, that statement is just inane. They are not remotely similar. Douglas, at his best, is still better than every single heavyweight out there today not named Klitschko. People overlook everything he did, mistakenly thinking he came out of nowhere and had no skill. He'd been around for a long time, fought a lot of top opposition and shown some great skill and fought very well for years leading up to the Tyson fight.
                    I personally believe that "Blubber" Douglas had the skills to have been one of the all time greats. But unfortunately his skills were overshadowed by his lack discipline and also that he was lacking something that you can't train a fighter to have and that was heart. With that said he was still able to but it altogether for one magical night when he shocked the world along with Mike Tyson.

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                    • Weltschmerz
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Andrew5550
                      Don't count out Holyfield just yet! Doubt he would have won against the others you mentioned but that's besides the point. As stated previously in this thread, I agree the talent pool is not that deep. But he could have made fights with the likes of boytsov (before pulev), pulev, helenius, Fury, Povetkin, Arreola just once in his last four. But he's chosen not to.
                      All those fights you mention are upcoming for Wlad. Wlad's going to clean out the division and retire in a few years. All of you guys bashing him now will learn to appreciate his true worth with time.

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