Who is higher on the ATG list: Floyd Mayweather (so far) or Roberto Duran?

[Left Hook Tua]

I have Duran as well but a question for you Tua.

what about losing to Kirkland Laing and quitting? How do we factor these into his resume?

everything at 147 up was gravy for duran

135 was duran at his best, at his prime.

147-up duran was old or out of shape or not at his best.

duran didn't have "MODERN" training/nutrition.

[The Big Dunn]

everything at 147 up was gravy for duran

135 was duran at his best, at his prime.

147-up duran was old or out of shape or not at his best.

duran didn't have "MODERN" training/nutrition.

If you count the big wins above 147, which you have, you should count the losses as well, right?

Duran ate, smoked and drank himself up the scale, that's on him.

But really, Duran has some poor losses , at points where he was still getting big wins, that also need to be factored here IMO.

True, he was a drug user, not just in the modern sense. LOL.

[The Hammer]

Freedom, please find another excuse. Manny lost. You picked him to win. Get over it, move on.

I picked Floyd by boring decision. The 2010 version of Pacquiao would have destroyed Mayweather.

As for this thread, I wish Floyd had fought 60 guys you didn't know. I imagine you'd be far more critical of these wins if they were on his resume instead of Duran's.

There are plenty of videos of Duran's opponents. Duran's moving up in weight to beat prime Leonard, and old Duran moving up to middleweight to beat the MUCH bigger prime Barkley (who had just beaten Hearns) is much better than Floyd's forcing smaller boxers (Hatton, JMM) to move up to fight him and Floyd's waiting until boxers are OLD and/or shot (Mosley, De La Hoya, Hernandez, etc).

Floyd is retired so how about you retire from bigoted and bias posting. Oh yeah, Ward is still better than GGG so I guess you aren't going anywhere.

Stop being biased yourself - you're not fooling anyone. You judge boxers by only ONE criteria, and we both know what that is.

And Ward is bigger but not better than GGG. Take away Ward's home referees who permit him to use illegal tactics, and the Son of Goat would be exposed as an ordinary, feather-fisted fraud.

[Left Hook Tua]

If you count the big wins above 147, which you have, you should count the losses as well, right?

Duran ate, smoked and drank himself up the scale, that's on him.

But really, Duran has some poor losses , at points where he was still getting big wins, that also need to be factored here IMO.

True, he was a drug user, not just in the modern sense. LOL.

duran 147-up was similar to toney career huh?

like get fat.

look bad vs. tomato can one fight, look great vs. good fighter next fight.

[The Big Dunn]

I picked Floyd by boring decision. The 2010 version of Pacquiao would have destroyed Mayweather.

There are plenty of videos of Duran's opponents. Duran's moving up in weight to beat prime Leonard, and old Duran moving up to middleweight to beat the MUCH bigger prime Barkley (who had just beaten Hearns) is much better than Floyd's forcing smaller boxers (Hatton, JMM) to move up to fight him and Floyd's waiting until boxers are OLD and/or shot (Mosley, De La Hoya, Hernandez, etc).
Stop being biased yourself - you're not fooling anyone. You judge boxers by only ONE criteria, and we both know what that is.

And Ward is bigger but not better than GGG. Take away Ward's home referees who permit him to use illegal tactics, and the Son of Goat would be exposed as an ordinary, feather-fisted fraud.

Then he shouldn't have walked away. He 'd lose anytime he fought Floyd because Floyd is just better.

Doesn't really answer the question. Yes, Duran has great wins. He also has some bad losses, is best known for quitting, and has a litany of guys you would criticize if they were on Floyd's resume.

Yeah, how they perform, no more, no less. You just can't refute the things I said about wlad and Manny so you went to the fallback-label me a certain way to try and refute the message where facts will not.

Ward is a gold medal winner and a lineal champ, GGG has never been either. he is bigger and better and that is why you fear him.

[The Big Dunn]

duran 147-up was similar to toney career huh?

like get fat.

look bad vs. tomato can one fight, look great vs. good fighter next fight.

You are minimizing it so that tells me you get the point. I'm cool with anyone saying Duran as I picked Duran. but he can't just be the Duran when he fought SRL 1, Barkley, Buchanon and Moore. he also duran fighting laing, Dejesus, Robbie sims and SRL 2.

[Left Hook Tua]

You are minimizing it so that tells me you get the point. I'm cool with anyone saying Duran as I picked Duran. but he can't just be the Duran when he fought SRL 1, Barkley, Buchanon and Moore. he also duran fighting laing, Dejesus, Robbie sims and SRL 2.

i always get the point, you know that.

i'm not as dumb as i post. most the time i just goof around.

even with floyd ped thing.

i'm just yanking you guys chain.

unless there's real proof, su****ions are not facts.

but as far as duran-floyd, i have duran higher. losses to me are excusable. especially in duran's case, weight/size/shape/age/etc.

i'm skeptical of undefeated records, that's what my bias is against floyd.

[topspsingoogly]

Please don't make silly comparisons between that disgusting fraud and a legend like Duran with threads like this..

[The Big Dunn]

According to the fair and un biased boxrec computer (Freedom, the TS called it this, not Dunn) Floyd is ahead of Duran.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=688577

http://boxrec.com/records

Is it ok to agree with the "fair and unbiased" boxrec computer Freedom?

[b00g13man]

According to the fair and un biased boxrec computer (Freedom, the TS called it this, not Dunn) Floyd is ahead of Duran.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=688577

http://boxrec.com/records

Is it ok to agree with the "fair and unbiased" boxrec computer Freedom?

Good catch. We've got our answer people!!! TBE! TBE! TBE!