Ok, so who does Floyd lose to? For the Flowmos.

[IronDanHamza]

Again. I never said he was a beast at 154. I said he looked much better than Floyd at 154. Why do you keep circumventing that issue, by bringing up how he looked at 147 compared to 154???

We aren't comparing Shane @ 147 to Shane @ 154.

We're comparing Shane @ 154 to Floyd @ 154.

Because comparing Shane at 147 to 154 shows how underwhelming he was at 154.

Same for Floyd.

Like I've said from the start, both are underwhelming at 154 and out of their element.

[Scarcaztic]

We're comparing them. We're just showing that he clearly looked underwhelming in comparison at in general.

Everything you're saying is there for Mosley, was hardly there. That's the point.

It wasn't non existent, he wasn't hopeless at 154. He was capable. Just underwhelming.



Mosley would always struggle with Winky despite the fact he's underwhelming regardless at 154.

Winky deserves credit none the less for beating a prime Mosley despite the fact it wasn't at his best weight and a weight he seemed not too effective at.

I have never said Winky deserves no credit for that fight. He deserves credit, absolutely.



And many people can't score a fight. Because if you think that fight was close, you simply don't know how to score a fight.



He didn't look more impressive. That's down to opposition (For the fight's you're referring to) but either way they both are out of their element at 154 for the most part.

Let's say Mosley's a tad better at 154, for arguments sake. It doesn't make a difference nor change the fact he's clearly out of his element and underwhelming.

LOL. Fair enough. You just had to add the "he's clearly out of his element and underwhelming" part didn't you?

[Scarcaztic]

Because comparing Shane at 147 to 154 shows how underwhelming he was at 154.

Same for Floyd.

Like I've said from the start, both are underwhelming at 154 and out of their element.

Dude, you don't have to respond to each one of my posts anymore. I'm so done with this topic.

They're both lackluster at 154. End of story.

[The Gambler1981]

The reason why Floyd gets a lot of credit is he is real versatile, I know it is hard to give Floyd credit for what he actually does but a versatile guy is just hard to get after because he always has that other options.

It is certainly not impossible to beat him, winning 6 or 7 rounds against him is not impossible for a lot of very good fighters on the right night.

Hearns is the one guy people talk about is a guy Floyd can't beat it would certainly be a hard fight given Hearns advantages and how he can exploit them but there are areas of the ring Floyd holds big advantages over him, so while it may not be likely all Floyd has to do is win 6 or 7 rounds. Leonard however would always be the toughest sort of guy for Floyd because he has the versatility that would negate what Floyd tries to do in the ring, and he would be highly unlikely to get discouraged by Floyd's game. There are a lot of guys that can beat Floyd though especially when you are talking 147 or above but not a lot of guys are likely to whomp on Floyd either which means he would have a chance.

[IronDanHamza]

LOL. Fair enough. You just had to add the "he's clearly out of his element and underwhelming" part didn't you?

Yeah Because he was.

Dude, you don't have to respond to each one of my posts anymore. I'm so done with this topic.

They're both lackluster at 154. End of story.

Agreed.

[Mike D]

Floyd loses to a prime Brian Sutherland via wide decision.

[BafanaBafana]

I'd definitely lean on Mayweather to beat Margarito but I think Margarito's vast size advantage aswell as chin, stamina and constant pressure would definitely give him some problems.

Trinidad's size, strength and power would be something Mayweather has never experienced along with the fact that Trinidad is a natural, huge WW I lean on him quite heavily. Not saying a Mayweather decision is out of the question, it's not. Just I lean on Trinidad.

This.

Also don't forget we're talking about a prime Margarito (the one that stopped Cotto); the guy was a big welterweight at 5'11, had incredible stamina and could throw 100 punches per round while walking through everything his opponents threw at him and was very effective at cutting the ring off--partly because of his long arms and legs. There's a reason why Mayweather never fought Margarito...

I also believe a prime, fit P.Will at 147 or 154 would have given Mayweather plenty of problems.

A prime Cotto (2007) vs. a prime welterweight Mayweather would have also been an entertaining fight.

[#1Assassin]

Right now, I don't think anyone at WW beats him.

In history, the fighters I give a good-great shot of beating him at WW;

Hearns
Robinson
Leonard
Griffith
Napoles
Trinidad
Armstrong
Gavilan

I'd lean on all of those to beat him at WW.

great post with the exception of trinidad, dont think he stands much of a chance against floyd. hearns, robinson, napoles and leonard would all beat him though and the others could go either way (with the exception of tito).

in fact i would add duran, whitaker, palomino and forrest (on his style alone) to that list as well.

[Canelo Phresh]

Martinez at 154 and up, Canelo at 154, Matthysse at 147, nobody else today though. In history Ill work my way back. Trinidad, Leonard, Hearns, a 100% Duran. Im sure theirs others.

[Cinci Champ]

Whitaker and Hearns

its known that floyd rocked him in sparring before floyd was even pro. sparring is not the same but still was what he like 16?