Ok, so who does Floyd lose to? For the Flowmos.

[IronDanHamza]

My man, put Shane in with the Oscar that Floyd fought, and Cotto of today, and it's not even a comparison. Then who'd look "better?" Floyd didn't look at all impressive in either of his fights @ 154. Like I said, Floyd doesn't look any better than Shane @ 154.

And that is exactly what I said.

Both look unimpressive and out of their element at 154, for the most part.

[Poloro87]

I think Leonard and Hearns has the best chance of beating Mayweather. I think Trinidad would get embarass. Whitaker would also be a great fight. Leonard could match Mayweather with speed and skill and Hearns Length may pose problems for Mayweather

[Scarcaztic]

And that is exactly what I said.

Both look unimpressive and out of their element at 154, for the most part.

but Shane looks a lot better than Floyd, physically. You're not putting into perspective, their opponents. Shane fought a guy that he couldn't hurt, and get respect from. He also put up a way better performance against Oscar, comparatively to where Oscar was at that point in his career (not washed up).

Floyd fought a bum ass Oscar, and Cotto's WAR TORN, and then some ass.

I'm not saying, Shane was some type of beast at 154. I'm saying comparatively speaking, he looks a lot better @ 154, than Floyd.

And I've been saying all this time that Floyd looks even worse than Shane @ 154.

[IronDanHamza]

but Shane looks a lot better than Floyd, physically. You're not putting into perspective, their opponents. Shane fought a guy that he couldn't hurt, and get respect from. He also put up a way better performance against Oscar, comparatively to where Oscar was at that point in his career (not washed up).

Floyd fought a bum ass Oscar, and Cotto's WAR TORN, and then some ass.

I'm not saying, Shane was some type of beast at 154. I'm saying comparatively speaking, he looks a lot better @ 154, than Floyd.

No, I'm not.

Look at the difference in Shane's performance against Oscar the second time compared to the first time.

Shane put up a better performance against Oscar than Mayweather at 154? No, he really didn't.

Shane obviously fought a much better version of Oscar but terms of Mayweather performance against 07 Oscar compared to Mosley's performance against 03 Oscar then Mayweather is obviously much better.

Mayweather beat Oscar in one sided fashion whereas Oscar was damn near robbed blind in the second Mosley fight.

Again, that's obviously down to the fact Mosley fought a much better version of Oscar but in solely comparing their performances, Mayweather was much better considered he clearly won and Mosley clearly lost.

Mosley struggled with a damn near shot Vargas at 154, and also struggled with Mayorga.

Like I said, Mosley pretty much always looked underwhelming at 154. He was clearly and always out his element at that weight.

[-Kev-]

sorry my friend this thread is not the place for this, but I never once said anything racist.

Oh of course you haven't. Only your last, maybe, 500 posts have been racist. Probably more.

[IronDanHamza]

but Shane looks a lot better than Floyd, physically. You're not putting into perspective, their opponents. Shane fought a guy that he couldn't hurt, and get respect from. He also put up a way better performance against Oscar, comparatively to where Oscar was at that point in his career (not washed up).

Floyd fought a bum ass Oscar, and Cotto's WAR TORN, and then some ass.

I'm not saying, Shane was some type of beast at 154. I'm saying comparatively speaking, he looks a lot better @ 154, than Floyd.

And I've been saying all this time that Floyd looks even worse than Shane @ 154.

He doesn't though.

They both look underwhelming and out of their element.

[Scarcaztic]

No, I'm not.

Look at the difference in Shane's performance against Oscar the second time compared to the first time.

Shane put up a better performance against Oscar than Mayweather at 154? No, he really didn't.

Shane obviously fought a much better version of Oscar but terms of Mayweather performance against 07 Oscar compared to Mosley's performance against 03 Oscar then Mayweather is obviously much better.

Mayweather beat Oscar in one sided fashion whereas Oscar was damn near robbed blind in the second Mosley fight.

Again, that's obviously down to the fact Mosley fought a much better version of Oscar but in solely comparing their performances, Mayweather was much better considered he clearly won and Mosley clearly lost.

Mosley struggled with a damn near shot Vargas at 154, and also struggled with Mayorga.

Like I said, Mosley pretty much always looked underwhelming at 154. He was clearly and always out his element at that weight.

Oscar wasn't "clearly" robbed as you say. People had him "clearly" winning by 2 rounds. That's not "clearly" robbed. Also, putting which Oscar they fought into perspective is the whole point, of how they looked against him. Floyd fought a bum ass Oscar, simple and plain.

Why even bring up vargas, when at that point, everyone and their mommas knew Shane wasn't "Sugar" anymore. He went back down to WW twice, then moved back up to 154. Then did the same for Mayorga. At least when he fought Winky, he was game, and put up a fight. Again, you're giving Winky no credit for beating a game ass Shane Mosely. One that just came off of a DLHA victory.

Floyd didn't "dominate" Oscar. Anyone with 2 sets of eyes could tell you, that was a boring ass fight, where Oscar wasn't using his jab. He didn't "dominate" ****. He won, but that was not a domination. Oscar didn't even look like he was in a fight after that fight.

Get Floyd's **** out yo mouth. He don't like you.

[Scarcaztic]

He doesn't though.

They both look underwhelming and out of their element.

He does though. Barring his washed up years, he looked damn game against Winky, and beat a much better version of Oscar than Floyd ever faced.

Of course, they both aren't as impressive at 154, but Floyd REALLY isn't impressive at 154.

[Scarcaztic]

I like how you know damn well Shane fought the much better opponets at 154, but still claim they both looked lackluster. Shane fought and beat a way better version of Oscar, and looked game in both the Winky fights. Then you bring up fights where Shane should've been retired by then.

No one's saying Shane's a killer @ 154. He does look better than Floyd though.

Not to mention the wear and tear by the tie Shane hit up 154. Floyd doesn't have nearly as much wear and tear, and he doesn't look nearly as athletic at that weight.

[Scarcaztic]

"According to a Top Rank poll of ringside reporters, 16 scored the fight for Mosley, eight for De La Hoya and four had it a draw."

The fight was a case of Shane landing the more impactful shots, and Oscar landing more shots.

Listen to Max Kelerman (I think, going off memory) after the fight. He even said as much. If you were there, you could hear and see that Shane was clearly landing the harder, and more impactful shots.