Is it possible cotto ain't shot?

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  • DeadLikeMe
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    #51
    He's definitely past it a bit, but I don't think he is shot. I've been praising Trout and telling people he is legit for over two years now. Trout is very very good.

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    • hhwff3000
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      #52
      Originally posted by tonyjones
      Just thinkin what if he didnt take trout 100% serious or might have found it hard to get up for that fight.im looking forward to see his next fight to really judge him
      Lets make this clear, and I am in no way anything close to a Cotto fan. He is not shot!!!! He lost to the best boxer on earth in mayweather, and then essentially fought a fighter with the same slippery defense and style of mayweather but only physically bigger and stronger (trout). He should get a better conditioning coach and move down to 147 (he would give anybody not named pacman or floyd hell at 147) Picture COtto vs. Marquez. He's stuck between weight classes which is a rare situation that some boxers go through.

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      • MJ223
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        #53
        Calling Cotto shot is a stretch

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        • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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          #54
          He was never that great to begin with. Remember how he changed his game plan and "ran" from Mosley those last 3 rounds? That was before Margarito got a hold of him.

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          • Ringlife
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            #55
            It just seems like he doesn't have power in his punches at 154 and he hasn't made 147 in years. He should just retire and promote now.

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            • Lords
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              #56
              Originally posted by ElBossHogg™
              not really margo is not hard to box, and cotto was looking like he was gonna be in serious trouble if it wasnt for that stoppage, and against mayweather it is rumored that he was (mayweather) exteremly sick.

              Now i know these are excuses and what not but if they are true, it kinda explains cotto success and writes it off at the same time.

              only time will tell
              Are you blind? Miguel won that last round before the stoppage how on earth can you say that he would have in serious trouble if the fight continued? If margarita had won the last 2 rounds before the stopage then I could understand your thought but he didnt. Also Floyd himself said Cotto was one of his toughest so throw that rumor out the window.
              As far as Miguel being shot I would say no, he aint shot. Trout was just to big and long for Miguel, he couldnt get in and do work. He bit off more than he could chew and paid. He lost to Floyd but it wasnt easy. Ill wait till his next fight to see where he stands.
              Last edited by Lords; 02-11-2013, 12:32 AM.

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              • Da Boxer
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                #57
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                It's not just the physical, he's long lost the killer vibe he used to have. When's the last time he brutalized someone to the body?
                I somewhat I agree with this statement. I have not seen his killer instinct in a long time actually, I cant even recall the last time he just pressured and went for the kill....may be Jenkins? Not sure.

                When he connects good, he tends to step back admire his work. Like a snake strike, and waits to observe the pray as it dies.

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                • Da Boxer
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by thoughtsss
                  Are you blind? Miguel won that last round before the stoppage how on earth can you say that he would have in serious trouble if the fight continued? If margarita had won the last 2 rounds before the stopage then I could understand your thought but he didnt. Also Floyd himself said Cotto was one of his toughest so throw that rumor out the window.
                  As far as Miguel being shot I would say no, he aint shot. Trout was just to big and long for Miguel, he couldnt get in and do work. He bit off more than he could chew and paid. He lost to Floyd but it wasnt easy. Ill wait till his next fight to see where he stands.
                  Same with me.

                  He needs a dedicated conditioning coach, may be Alex Ariza? Hell, he got fatty boy Jr. into making weight and still be strong he may be able to work some good stuff on Miguel.

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                  • Hyper Knuckles
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                    #59
                    No way.. Miguel just needs a better conditioning regimen. I don't think he trained 110% for this fight. Trout won a clearcut decision but there were moments where Miguel looked like he could pull the killswitch, falling prey to sloppiness in skirmishes. He trained in Big Bear and THEN wrapped things up in Florida? Wtf? Pedro Diaz analyzed only 2 of Trouts fights and said it was all the tape he needed to formulate a gameplan.
                    Trout's style is puzzling but I still think he looked beatable against a game fighter of Miguel's caliber. If Cotto isn't willing to take his training seriously enough then it's time for him to retire. It's not fair to his legacy. For the record, I wholeheartedly support a move back down to 147.

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                    • Da Boxer
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Hyper Knuckles
                      No way.. Miguel just needs a better conditioning regimen. I don't think he trained 110% for this fight. Trout won a clearcut decision but there were moments where Miguel looked like he could pull the killswitch, falling prey to sloppiness in skirmishes. He trained in Big Bear and THEN wrapped things up in Florida? Wtf? Pedro Diaz analyzed only 2 of Trouts fights and said it was all the tape he needed to formulate a gameplan.
                      Trout's style is puzzling but I still think he looked beatable against a game fighter of Miguel's caliber. If Cotto isn't willing to take his training seriously enough then it's time for him to retire. It's not fair to his legacy. For the record, I wholeheartedly support a move back down to 147.
                      Yes and that was due to his Mother wanting to go back to FL. You may have seen it during the first episode of Showtime. You cant have those type of distractions that will/could have a significant negative result.

                      As I stated earlier, he needs a dedicated conditioning coach and clean his diet.

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