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Yeah, exactly. He's number 1, despite having people ranked above him. Go figure...
Your earlier post is so true. Larry is a great poster of that sort. Just looks at useless 'facts' and statistics and wanks about that constantly. As you said, on paper, Floyds resume looks amazing, but if you had watched it and knew boxing well, you'd know that there are major league holes all throughout his career after 130 and 135. It was properly good through those divisions and then just went to ****. With the guys around these days, he could have had a properly great career. He's seemingly done his best to not do that after starting out so well.
As much of a fan as you could be, I would have thought that it would be preferable to keep the fact hidden among his better things that the number 1 guys he beat at 140 and 147 were ****ing Baldomir and Gatti.
That's not the type of thing you'd spend much time saying if you were a fanboy of Larry's proportions. That's literally admitting that the very best guys, the number 1 guys as Larry puts it, he beat in two divisions were among the worst 'champions' in those divisions in a long time. Gatti not so bad, except unfortunately Floyd fought him when he was shot, and even in his prime he wasn't anything more than a contender.
Not something to be basing greatness on.Last edited by BennyST; 12-24-2012, 08:09 AM.Comment
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This is true. It's funny haters trying to imply Floyd put them in #1 and then beat them to look good but fact is the people who put those guys in the #1 spot were the same trying to make Pacquiao look like the fighter of the decade robbing Floyd of that. Floyd is the real fighter of the decade, hands down the best of this generation.Comment
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Gatti might not be the best but he was the number one guy at 140 when Mayweather fought him, Tzysu was the champ at that weight.
Cotto at 154 is the number one guy even though there wasn't a clear champ at that weight.Comment
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everyone says that now but back then ppl were saying floyd was ducking him, talking about how mayweather wasnt a real WW and baldomir was too big a and strong for him.
besides, who exactly was better than baldomir? he beat judah, the man who was undisputed champion at the weight, he in turn knocked out spinks who brought the titles together. nobody gave a damn about margarito, mosley was at 154 and cotto was at 140.
it was baldomir, spinks and judah who were the three top dogs in the division. mayweather fought judah who he had already been in negotiations to fight before he was upset by baldomir. ppl went crazy talking about how floyd was gonna duck baldo and fight judah then spinks and never take on a legit WW.
margaritos name didnt come up as a legit challenger until he beat cotto many years later. so can you blame floyd for fighting the guy ppl wanted him to fight and who had the legitimate title?Comment
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Using the ts logic I could say Cintron drew with Martinez. Its factually true but its bull**** to anyone who was paying attention. Floyd has a good resume but he didn't fight the fights that a lot of us who aren't casuals wanted. The fans want to see great fighters challenge themselves and prove they r the best. Floyd fairly or unfairly is held to a higher standard because of his talent.Comment
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Margarito name was in the mix, nobody wanted to fight him at that time, Judah was the undisputed and he wanted bigger fights in Mosley, De la Hoya etc, Mayweather was coming to 147 at that time and he wanted De la Hoya too but everything happened with Judah and then he was accuse of ducking Baldomir and Hatton (Even though Hatton and his team said they are not ready for that fight) when he signed to fight Judah, After that he fought Baldomir but Margarito was definitely hyped and relevant at that time.Comment
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