Floyd has defeated the #1 guy in EVERY division he has been in

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  • Ray*
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    #91
    Originally posted by Big_L
    excuses.

    sergio martinez is right now one of the top 3 p4p fighters in the world. a bigger draw than roberto gurerrero. he can make 154. floyd's is 154 champ. any explanation on why that fight can't happen is an excuse.
    I disagree he can't make 154 and be healthy.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      We know, floyd had money troubles with a lot of fighters, even tho it seems these money problems occurred with prime top fighters people wanted to see him fight. Thats why he has Gatti and Balomir as "#1" fighters in divisions
      Agreed......

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        #93
        Originally posted by Ray*
        I disagree he can't make 154 and be healthy.
        well sergio saids he can. i'll take his word over yours.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Big_L
          well sergio saids he can. i'll take his word over yours.
          I disagree with you and Sergio, just like I disagree with Chad Dawson fighting Ward at 168, when I have seen Martinez fighting at 154 and still healthy then I would agree with him just you do.

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #95
            Originally posted by Big_L
            well sergio saids he can. i'll take his word over yours.
            Well I'll take this fact over yours:


            Fact: Martinez is now going on his 8th Middleweight fight in a row. Why he and Floyd are even being mentioned together is beyond me. Maybe a couple of years ago fine but now. Let it go. Martinez is a full fledged Middleweight.

            How many fights does he need to fight at 160 for people to believe him? 8? 10? 12?

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              #96
              He weighs in as a middleweight at 158, I think he can make 154.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Big_L
                sergio is more than willing to fight floyd. he said he would come down to 150.

                in 2006 floyd turned down the fight. he was still with top rank back then.

                from 2008-2010 paul williams was at that level. espeically right around the time floyd decided to retire and became a pro wrestler.
                Why not push for a Peter "kid chocolate " quillen fight vs Martinez or maybe even a canelo fight vs martinez. Mayweather is nothing more than a blown up featherweight beating these big guys. 154 and 160 is just too big for Floyd. Martinez should be moving up to fight ward or canelo should be moving up to fight martinez. These guys are afraid to face those in their own weight divison.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by D-MiZe
                  He weighs in as a middleweight at 158, I think he can make 154.
                  He can't just hover a weight class and claim people are ducking him all while he refuses to fight at 154 where the competition is much better than 160. If he could make 154 he wouldve made himself relevant there rather than fight Martin Murray.

                  Hes walking around 180 ish he can damn sure make 168 but won't entertain it.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Burner ©
                    Well I'll take this fact over yours:


                    Fact: Martinez is now going on his 8th Middleweight fight in a row. Why he and Floyd are even being mentioned together is beyond me. Maybe a couple of years ago fine but now. Let it go. Martinez is a full fledged Middleweight.

                    How many fights does he need to fight at 160 for people to believe him? 8? 10? 12?
                    how many fights has shane mosley had at 154? yet he can still make 147 with no problems.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Burner ©
                      He can't just hover a weight class and claim people are ducking him all while he refuses to fight at 154 where the competition is much better than 160. If he could make 154 he wouldve made himself relevant there rather than fight Martin Murray.

                      Hes walking around 180 ish he can damn sure make 168 but won't entertain it.
                      Anybody can make a weight division higher then their own, what does that even mean

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