Mayweather vs Guerrero/Margarito question

[4Corners]

beating a slew of decent guys makes up for not beating a great guy
the unified title was held by Spinks, then by Zab
those guys weren't going anywhere near a fight with Tony
Tony had to put in work against whoever else was available
how is Berto more proven? by doing nothing with a belt for 3 yrs?

I'm saying Berto was more proven than Antonio Diaz, Andrew Lewis, and Kermit Cintron were at the times Margarito fought them. Those guys had done nothing, but yeah they were alright wins. Berto, though not a world beater by any means, had at least a couple wins over Top 10 WW's like Collazo and Zaveck, and a couple ehhh wins over Quintana and Urango.

I'd take beating Berto over beating Lewis/Diaz/Cintron

[4Corners]

Either way Margarito still ****s all over Guerrero at that point. You do realize Berto was GIVEN a belt and didn't really do shit with it besides milking it ala DiBella way. Aydin seriously?
All this is from Floyd fan boys is to hype up a Guerrero vs Floyd fight.

While true Hopkins is an ATG, lots of those mandatories weren't exactly great and the only great ones were freaking Welters but that's another thread.

Just saying Hopkins went on to do something at the weight, Sergio never did.

I don't even like Mayweather-Guerrero all that much, but it's a solid fight against a top ranked WW.

Berto had beaten Collazo and Zaveck, 2 Top 10 WW's when he did. Aydin was as legit a win for Guerrero as Diaz and Lewis were when Marg beat him, 2 of Marg's better wins prior to 2006. And Cintron in 2005 had done absolutely nothing. Berto's at least beaten a few Top 10 WW's before.

[Mr. Fantastic]

But what had he done to be ranked #1??? He'd beaten Diaz, Lewis, and Cintron, none of which were very proven at the time at all. Berto was more proven than those 3 when Marg fought them.

How the hell so? Cause he beat Forbes? Robbed Collazo. Oh I know why.....he beat a prime Quintana.

[puga]

watch it guys , ts has a habit of overrating floyd's wins ..f0cker lies about past ratings just to make floyd look good....just pay attention to what he writes and claims , most of em are made up...

[4Corners]

Yeah.......alright..........this coming from a guy with several alts. Cool story homie.

[Jack Napier]

I'm saying Berto was more proven than Antonio Diaz, Andrew Lewis, and Kermit Cintron were at the times Margarito fought them. Those guys had done nothing, but yeah they were alright wins. Berto, though not a world beater by any means, had at least a couple wins over Top 10 WW's like Collazo and Zaveck, and a couple ehhh wins over Quintana and Urango.

I'd take beating Berto over beating Lewis/Diaz/Cintron

you're reaching dude
Tony circa 06 was a more elite WW than present Guerrero
if you can't see that, don't know WTF to tell you

[4Corners]

How the hell so? Cause he beat Forbes? Robbed Collazo. Oh I know why.....he beat a prime Quintana.

All Diaz had done at 147 was get TKO'd by Mosley. Lewis won a vacant title against no name and than lost to Mayorga. Cintron had never fought a legit fight at that point in 2005.

Berto isn't a world beater. But I'd take ehhh wins over Quintana/Urango and wins over Top 10 WW's like Collazo (close fight) and Zaveck > losing to Mayorga and Mosley as your only legit fights at the weight.

I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm not saying Berto > Margarito.

I'm saying Berto > Diaz, Lewis, and Cintron in 2005.

[4Corners]

you're reaching dude
Tony circa 06 was a more elite WW than present Guerrero
if you can't see that, don't know WTF to tell you

I was just saying Margarito hadn't really had any more legit or good wins than Guerrero does right now. It's the truth. Margarito wouldn't have been career defining in 2006, neither would Guerrero in 2013. Both would be solid wins over top WW's though.

[4Corners]

I've yet to hear someone explain how beating Antonio Diaz, Andrew Lewis, and Kermit Cintron prior to 2006 are such better wins than beating Selcuk Aydin and Andre Berto prior to 2013. They're about equal basically.

That's all, just saying Margarito sure as hell wouldn't have been career defining in 2006, it would have been solid win over a Top WW.

[ElMeroChingon]

I was just saying Margarito hadn't really had any more legit or good wins than Guerrero does right now. It's the truth. Margarito wouldn't have been career defining in 2006, neither would Guerrero in 2013. Both would be solid wins over top WW's though.

Then why did Floyd go on vacation, and it was just "luck" that he would come back right when Margarito lossed to Shane Mosley?

The man didn't want any part of Margarito, his win over Cotto kept him in retirement, and his loss against Mosley brought him back



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