Can we all agree, Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

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  • I.R.I.E
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    #31
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    Can we all agree that Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

    He absolutely beat the brakes off both Judah and Alexander.
    We sure can agree on that. Lucas in my eyes is undefeated and the most powerful @ 140.

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    • boliodogs
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      #32
      I think Lucas has improved and learned from fighting better fighters since the Judah fight. I think he would KO Judah within 6 rounds if they fight again.

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      • !! Shawn
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        #33
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        I agree he should be undefeated.Saying he beat the breaks off Judah may be over doing it but he knocked Judah down, won more rounds than Judah and was a clear winner in my opinion.The fight with Alexander was an even more one sided win for Lucas than the Judah win in my opinion. That fight was a hometown robbery. He should be champion at 140 and he will be if any belt holder will fight him.
        I agree, judah fight was closer, but Alexander fight was a demolition.

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        • elfag
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          #34
          Theres a lot of good guys near 140, maybe not at 140 but that can make 140 like broner, JMM and bradley who would all beat him

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          • Russian Crushin
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ray*
            Undoubtedly he has improved since the Judah fight but I agree entirely with you, people have a way of overrating fighters who can punch, They did that with Maidana,Pirog, GGG and Lucas M, it's very annoying to be honest, if Lucas is this killer then he should be disposing of this guys within 3 rounds.
            So name me 1 fighter in all of boxing that is disposing of top guys in his division within 3 rounds

            I'll wait

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            • bojangles1987
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              #36
              I thought he won the Judah fight, but I can see how someone might score it for Judah.

              He obviously beat Alexander, there is zero case to be made for Alexander winning that fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I think Lucas has improved and learned from fighting better fighters since the Judah fight. I think he would KO Judah within 6 rounds if they fight again.
                Definitely. He showed too much respect for Judah, and was clearly worried about his stamina late in the fight. These days he knows he can go the 12 rounds, and wouldn't wait to get started. That's the lesson he learned from both Judah and Alexander.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  I thought he won the Judah fight, but I can see how someone might score it for Judah.

                  He obviously beat Alexander, there is zero case to be made for Alexander winning that fight.
                  I honestly cant see how anyone can say judah won that fight, maybe Paulie Mallinagi, because he has a huge bias for "movers"

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                  • gmc_rfc_06
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                    #39
                    He should indeed be undefeated.

                    I had him beating Zab by a couple of points and he quite clearly beat Alexander, that one wasn't close. He's a very good fighter and has improved a lot in the las couple of years, he's the #1 fighter at 140lbs.

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                    • bojangles1987
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      I honestly cant see how anyone can say judah won that fight, maybe Paulie Mallinagi, because he has a huge bias for "movers"
                      Last time someone made a thread about the fight, I watched it again and had it 7-4-1 for Matthysse. I thought there was a round or two that could be given to Judah to close the gap, give him the draw and Judah has a 1 point win.

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