Can we all agree, Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

[Tom Cruise]

I haven't seen either fight in a while, but I remember having Matthysse winning both times. Just looking at the compubox numbers Matthysse both outlanded and out-threw both Judah and Alexander:

Matthysse v. Judah (Lucas more than doubled Judah's power punches)
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...hysse-compubox

Matthysse v. Alexander

http://www.boxingscene.com/compubox-stats-matthysse-edges-alexander-numbers--40820

You also have to take into account the knockdown in both fights and the fact that Matthysse hits a lot harder than either guy. Regardless, I would have to rewatch both fights again to really assess how the rounds played out.

See thats what i thought i saw when i watched it earlier today, Judah landed mostly Jabs (and not hard ones at that) while Matthysse was smashing right hands to the body. Judah obviously landed some very clean left hands but nowhere near enough, and none of them even marked Lucas.

I wish we could watch it without commentary and with other sounds because i think others would have it in Matthysse's favour more clearly...

[brickcityboxing]

Judah was a close fight.

I find it funny people think Matthysse will steam roll anyone at 140, when the two best fighters he faced, Judah and Alexander......he didn't steam roll and kill either of them.

But all you hear on here is how Matthysse will slaughter anyone and everyone, and beat the s**t out of god himself.

Seriously, Matthysse went from being underrated to a bit overrated.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this in big blinking letters !
Mathysse might be the most overrated fighter in the sport.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I haven't seen either fight in a while, but I remember having Matthysse winning both times. Just looking at the compubox numbers Matthysse both outlanded and out-threw both Judah and Alexander:

Matthysse v. Judah (Lucas more than doubled Judah's power punches)

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=judah-matthysse-compubox

Matthysse v. Alexander

http://www.boxingscene.com/compubox-stats-matthysse-edges-alexander-numbers--40820

You also have to take into account the knockdown in both fights and the fact that Matthysse hits a lot harder than either guy. Regardless, I would have to rewatch both fights again to really assess how the rounds played out.

The last part of your post is the most important part of it..As we know fights are scored on a rd by rd basis,a lot of the punches(where Matt's did a lot of damage)were in the later rds...Which is why I had it so close,but early I thought Zab controlled the fight..I have not watch the fight in a while(the reason I remember this fight so well tho is because that night I was having this exact argument with some posters lol)but I remember a late rd I gave to Judah which turned the fight in his favor on my cards...All in all,I just don't feel the word robbery is the right choice of words in a fight this close...But I have no bones with someone who saw it for Matt's..Hell that's what a close fight is ya know..Also what makes boxing one of the best sports to talk about...

[Tom Cruise]

The last part of your post is the most important part of it..As we know fights are scored on a rd by rd basis,a lot of the punches(where Matt's did a lot of damage)were in the later rds...Which is why I had it so close,but early I thought Zab controlled the fight..I have not watch the fight in a while(the reason I remember this fight so well tho is because that night I was having this exact argument with some posters lol)but I remember a late rd I gave to Judah which turned the fight in his favor on my cards...All in all,I just don't feel the word robbery is the right choice of words in a fight this close...But I have no bones with someone who saw it for Matt's..Hell that's what a close fight is ya know..Also what makes boxing one of the best sports to talk about...

I think with the Zab fight in particular there were so many swing rounds as well, which is probably why i have seen it so differently both times i scored it.

Havent seen the Devon one in ages but if memory serves it was similar.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I think with the Zab fight in particular there were so many swing rounds as well, which is probably why i have seen it so differently both times i scored it.

Havent seen the Devon one in ages but if memory serves it was similar.

I remember having the Matt's Devon fight close,but I thought Matt's won that fight..But nobody should have to suffer watching Alexander fight,I mean if he fights Brook it's new and the theater of the unexpected..But to watch Alexander back is brutal...

[Fighting_Pride]

matthysse was robbed no doubt

[STAX ON DECK]

haaah,funny how yall lame ass dudes are startin beef on a dam typo...smh kids

[Phenom]

he lost to Zab Judah period Alexander was close fight tough decision but no robbery