Can we all agree, Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

[eul]

Yes we can.

[-PBP-]

No he shouldnt and no he didnt beat the breaks off of anyone. He's a very good fighter but just like alot of others, he struggles with Southpaws. No harm in that. He still fought well in those fights. I would love to see him against a top notch righty

no........

No, I had him losing by 1 point vs Judah.

I didn't have any problem with the Judah decision. Close fight.

Judah was a close fight.

I find it funny people think Matthysse will steam roll anyone at 140, when the two best fighters he faced, Judah and Alexander......he didn't steam roll and kill either of them.

But all you hear on here is how Matthysse will slaughter anyone and everyone, and beat the s**t out of god himself.

Seriously, Matthysse went from being underrated to a bit overrated.

Agree with all of these

[Da Machine]

Judah was a close fight.

I find it funny people think Matthysse will steam roll anyone at 140, when the two best fighters he faced, Judah and Alexander......he didn't steam roll and kill either of them.

But all you hear on here is how Matthysse will slaughter anyone and everyone, and beat the s**t out of god himself.

Seriously, Matthysse went from being underrated to a bit overrated.

He clearly beat Alexander. There should be no doubt there. Judah fight was close, but more people have said Matthyse won then Judah.

Regardless of those two fights, Matthyse has improved and turned into a real killer since. He doesn't **** around anymore and goes straight for the ko from start to finish. Some people tend to forget this when trying understand why people feel he is clearly the best at 140, which he is.

The two fights he was robbed he let them carry the pace. He doesnt do that anymore.

[Nicolino]

Judah was a close fight.

I find it funny people think Matthysse will steam roll anyone at 140, when the two best fighters he faced, Judah and Alexander......he didn't steam roll and kill either of them.

But all you hear on here is how Matthysse will slaughter anyone and everyone, and beat the s**t out of god himself.

Seriously, Matthysse went from being underrated to a bit overrated.

Mattysse was a slow stater then. If you watch the second half of both fights, Lucas beat the **** both Judah and Alexander. He seems to be more confident and let go his hands earlier now.

[4Corners]

He clearly beat Alexander. There should be no doubt there. Judah fight was close, but more people have said Matthyse won then Judah.

Regardless of those two fights, Matthyse has improved and turned into a real killer since. He doesn't **** around anymore and goes straight for the ko from start to finish. Some people tend to forget this when trying understand why people feel he is clearly the best at 140, which he is.

Who has he fought since??? Olusegun and Soto most notably.....not exactly world beaters themselves, and one was fighting at a weight he isn't that good at.

I want Garcia-Matthysse too, but the facts are that the two best fighters he's faced, he didn't steam and kill either of them. I thought Judah won, but Matthysse should have gotten the W over ALexander. Still though, he didn't steam roll and kill him and knock them out.

But if you have any Matthysse-?????? questions......the answer is that Matthysse kills them and knocks them out easily.

[nachorjj]

yes, and now is better

[!! Shawn]

No he shouldnt and no he didnt beat the breaks off of anyone. He's a very good fighter but just like alot of others, he struggles with Southpaws. No harm in that. He still fought well in those fights. I would love to see him against a top notch righty

You obviously didn't see either fight if you think he did anything remotely close to struggling. The Zab fight was closer, but Devon received a terrible beating.

[Prince_Pugilist]

Both were extremely close fights and Matthyse was not the obvious winner people make him out to be. Having said that, I scored both fights for the Argentine by a couple points.

[Da Machine]

Who has he fought since??? Olusegun and Soto most notably.....not exactly world beaters themselves, and one was fighting at a weight he isn't that good at.

I want Garcia-Matthysse too, but the facts are that the two best fighters he's faced, he didn't steam and kill either of them. I thought Judah won, but Matthysse should have gotten the W over ALexander. Still though, he didn't steam roll and kill him and knock them out.

But if you have any Matthysse-?????? questions......the answer is that Matthysse kills them and knocks them out easily.

He's changed the tempo and attitude of his fighting. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

How were his last wins nothing but steamrolling someone? He knocked them out, and never lost a rd. Edit: you were talking about other two.

Like i said in my other post. He has changed his pace and attitude when fighting. He let Judah and Alexander carry the fight. Now he just goes for the kill. If he would have done that in the Judah fight he would have won more clearly. IDK about a ko.

Garcia would have no chance. First off, Garcia isn't that good. That will be the jist of it right there, but to go into more detail, he is too slow, punches too wide, and Matthyse punches to hard for someone that easy to hit to last. Not to mention I don't see anyone at 140 with the power to put Matthyse out. Dude doesn't even get affected by punches. His head literally doesn't move when getting hit.

[4Corners]

He's changed the tempo and attitude of his fighting. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

How were his last wins nothing but steamrolling someone? He knocked them out, and never lost a rd.

Garcia would have no chance. First off, Garcia isn't that good. That will be the jist of it right there, but to go into more detail, he is too slow, punches too wide, and Matthyse punches to hard for someone that easy to hit to last. Not to mention I don't see anyone at 140 with the power to put Matthyse out. Dude doesn't even get affected by punches. His head literally doesn't move when getting hit.

I said the two best fighters he's faced, Judah and Alexander, he didn't steam roll them. He steam rolled Olusegun and Soto, and people think he steam rolls anyone end everyone. I don't think that's the case.