Roy Jones - Poor amateur record

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  • JUYJUY
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    Roy Jones - Poor amateur record

    1982 Florida Games - Gift Decision against Antonio Tarver in final

    1983 Florida Jr. Olympics - Lost

    1985 Florida Jr. Olympics - Lost

    He also Lost to Igor Ruzhnikov (Russia, 139, 1986), John Reid (Ireland, 156, 1986), Andy Liebing (Cuba, 156, 1986), Frank Liles (almost KTFO, US nationals, 156, 1988) and Gerald McClellan (US Golden Gloves, 156, 1988). Then, Jones got a gift to the 1988 Olympics when every sane person knows it should of been Gerald McClellan going to Seoul. Mediocre Richie Woodhall gave Jones a very close fight in the semi-finals. Then Park Si-Hun was Jones' 13th amateur loss.


    Also remember that Jermain Taylor looked better against Bernard Hopkins than Jones did and that Michael Nunn looked better against James Toney than Jones did. People should not forget the Schooling that Montell Griffin put on Jones. Let's not forget 40-year-old Mike McCallum giving Jones a really close fight. Let's not forget Lou Del Valle almost KTFO Jones. Let's not forget Antonio Tarver KTFO Jones. Let's not forget Glencoffe Johnson KTFO Jones. Let's not forget Antonio Tarver beat Jones four times - 1982 (robbed), 2003 (robbed), 2004 and 2005. Jones' best resume is the guys he avoided and ducked - Gerald McClellan, Lamar Parks, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Michael Nunn, Graciano Rocchigiani, Fabrice Tiozzo, Steve Collins, Henry Maske, Dariusz Michalczewski, James Toney II, Bernard Hopkins II, Joe Calzaghe, Vassilliy Jirov, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, the list goes on.
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    Ok ... unlike a lot of people on these forums, I don't have a problem with you. I'm not sure what your interest in amateur records is, but there's nothin' wrong with it, as long as the information you have is right.

    Here's my problem ....

    Originally posted by JUYJUY
    Also remember that Jermain Taylor looked better against Bernard Hopkins than Jones did ...
    You HAVE to be kidding me. I know you don't like Jones, but come on!

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      Originally posted by Red_Menace
      You HAVE to be kidding me. I know you don't like Jones, but come on!
      Jones ran for his life for the last six rounds or so, he was too scared to trade because he knew he wasn't good enough. He knew that he didn't have the skill to out-box decent fighters. Taylor wasn't all that good against Hopkins, but I wasn't impressed with Jones at all.

      And against Toney, Jones ran. He didn't try to win the fight by knockout or stoppage which is the proper way to win a world title. Michael Nunn actually stood right in front of Toney and just out-boxed him, Jones couldn't do that.

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      • theironone
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        juy stay off the drink son, taylor looked better against hop than jones did....paleeeease, mccallum looked very old in that fight and roy pissed it, nunn got clocked jones won nearly every round, ice was competetive but then rematch time and its bye bye monty, louy got a good kd but thats about it, he lost just about every other round, ill give u tarver ko and johnson ko but tarver 1 and 3 were close.
        Give the man some credit he was a very good fighter

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        • theironone
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          #5
          also why go off topic i thought this thread was slating his amateur record, half of it was about his pro stuff

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          • Londonerzz
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            #6
            Why do u hate Roy Jones soo much?? Is it cos he outshone Eubank and Benn who are 2 of ur favroite boxers?

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            • Moschino045
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              i admit, RJJ didnt actualy have much to write home about at 160 or 175, But at 168 the guy was an alien freak. see how he makes p4p no1 JT look like a drunken novice & watch the combo's he lets out on Paz, Thornton etc. simply amazing talent, real power in his lightning combo's & mesmorising speed to get out the way

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              • Moschino045
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                pre-Watson Eubank coulda stopped him & Nige Benn coulda caught him, but really RJJ was on another planet to any body else in the boxing game at his v.best

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                • JUYJUY
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JUYJUY
                  Gerald McClellan, Lamar Parks, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Michael Nunn, Graciano Rocchigiani, Fabrice Tiozzo, Steve Collins, Henry Maske, Dariusz Michalczewski, James Toney II, Bernard Hopkins II, Joe Calzaghe, Vassilliy Jirov, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, the list goes on.
                  Add Frank Liles to that list (gave Jones a standing eight-count in the amateurs) and you can also add McCallum and Reggie Johnson from when they were still middleweight's.

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    Originally posted by JUYJUY
                    Add Frank Liles to that list (gave Jones a standing eight-count in the amateurs) and you can also add McCallum and Reggie Johnson from when they were still middleweight's.
                    I honestly hate this whole ducking fighters thing ... unless someone gives up their belt, without even trying to defend it, you can't say a fighter ducked anyone. There's a lot of behind the scenes negotiation that none of us are privy to, so it's an argument that cannot be proved or won. And ducking Tyson and Lewis? You're talking about a natural middle-weight ducking Lewis who was the heavy-weight champ and about 250lbs?

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