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How did I end up here? I can't believe it but I couldn't take this post.....
I would LOVE to go through and tear this to shreds, which would be very easy, but you're clearly a complete waste of time. But let's add a few things you've left out.....first and foremost all your 'robbed' is your opinion based on either something Tarver said or you read.
Jones didn't 'run for his life' from Hopkins. He won the first half easily, broke his hand, and still won very comfortably and Hopkins didn't do ****.
If you watch McClellan and Benn in their tragic fight and think that they would be able to find Jones, let alone fend him off without getting beaten half to death, good for you. Jackson, not quick enough or big enough, was cleaned up by McClellan, and after Benn-McClellan, Benn, Collins and Eubank were all pretty much done. Very short periods of success by comparison and you don't have to be a genius to see why they fought each other in England rather than come here and get humiliated.
Michael Nunn got KTFO by Toney and moved to 168 after that fight before Jones even fought Hopkins. Toney and Nunn were in the middle of setting up their rematch when Nunn lost and his next fight was above 190#. That led to Jones replacing Nunn and while Toney talked all kinds of ****, he won 2-3 rounds. Tops. NO INTEREST IN A REMATCH......
And Roy accomplished plenty at 175. McCallum at LHW was NOT a close fight. Jones carried him out of respect...........some people's brain-damaged children. He KO'd Virgil Hill and KO'd two guys that beat the heil out of Dariusz.....
Also, before Jones went to HW where he hoped it would be Holyfield, both before and after, the guy he 'ducked', Daruisz, was making 1.5 million per fight. He was offered $5 M on 3 different occasions to come to the US and fight Jones...........NOPE. DIDN"T WANT IT, Same With Rocchigiani though the offer was less, still more than triple his usual salary.
Jones v Hopkins 2 didn't happen because Hopkins thought he should get 50/50. Toney made damn sure to eat himself away from Jones the rest of his damn career.
Jones beat Tarver the first fight. After that, and a 'horrendous' record of 121-13 in the amateurs, he was done. After a long period of time, punch tolerance drops, particularly after what Jones foolishly did to his body.
Griffin gave him a rough night on a bad night. But Jones was in the middle of knocking his ass out and about to take the lead on the best possible scorecard for Griffin........did you see the fight?
Anything that happened after Jones-Tarver 2 is not worth talking about. He had lost a split second of reflexes that separated him from every fighter in history. Dariusz got beat by Gonzalez, who Jones had dropped 3 times in a 12 rd UD after a punch count of 51% to 15% and 195-91 and a score of 119-106. Tarver isn't exactly the shiniest example of greatness himself. He talked **** about Jones and dropping weight, then used the exact same excuse against Hopkins.
And you believe he should have given up all that weight to Lewis? That's a 'duck'..........that is absolutely ******ed. No LHW in history would have considered it. They fought HW back in the day because their walk around weight was only about 10 pounds different than HW. Jones beat Ruiz who beat Holyfield who beat Tyson......not exactly his fault that his one and done ended up being the least interesting choice but he still did it and came back too quickly, but still beat Tarver.
If he'd have been smart like he always promised he would, he'd have walked at 49-1, that 1 being a BS DQ, with 38 KO's and after McClellan-Benn, he asked the ref to stop many of those fights........he also could have knocked out others.
Vassily Jirov? Get serious. Calzaghe was offered a fight. During the prime of both fighters, same as Hopkins. Nunn would have been KO'd the same way he was vs Toney.
Take away the BS DQ and he just may well have walked at 50-0 w 39 KO's and I bet that would have KILLED YOU.......eh?
You're basically left with a couple of standing 8's in the amateurs, which mean very little, a couple of close scores in a bad scoring system, Tyson, Lewis and Vasily Jirov. Becasue when did anyone clamor for the Jirov fight?
Del Valle landed a bizarre temple shot, to which Jones jumped right up from. And when he beat Eric Harding as a mandatory it was because.......Oh yea, Harding beat Tarver and while Harding was an awkward opponent, he was behind on all cards when he retired on the stool.......
He also made several future champions look like complete bums, including one he beat the hell out of Dariusz......
Who had a chance? Maybe McClellan but he was so used to going short rounds, he probably would have gassed early and got KO'd. The rest of this is garbage. The Jones in the first Tarver fight, let alone the second, third and the one who fought Johnson was simply not the same.......
You're a clown. YDKSAB...........and I'd love to pull the documentation up to prove it, I don't have anymore time to waste on the UNDISPUTEDLY BEST FIGHTER FROM TONEY (arguably Hopkins 1) TO TARVER 1..........
So take this
and this 
before I really make you look like a :wank: with your cute little list........ and :****you:
You can freely have Tiozzo, who made a career of beating up other Frenchmen, then KO'ing Dariusz after a comeback attempt 18 mos after losing to Gonzalez and after Jones had already lost.
You can also have all the post Tarver 1 fights because it's tantamount to saying that after losing his 5th MW title, Robinson turned himself into a bum.....you are entitled to that opinion.......but you don't get to use opinion as fact and go unchallenged in your bias.........what next, he shouldn't have been awarded the Val Barker trophy? SMDH
Go troll after someone else......check on all the guys Calzaghe didn't fight.....how about that? Or Benn? Any of the guys you mention.......have fun on your fool's errand, fool.
I would LOVE to go through and tear this to shreds, which would be very easy, but you're clearly a complete waste of time. But let's add a few things you've left out.....first and foremost all your 'robbed' is your opinion based on either something Tarver said or you read.
Jones didn't 'run for his life' from Hopkins. He won the first half easily, broke his hand, and still won very comfortably and Hopkins didn't do ****.
If you watch McClellan and Benn in their tragic fight and think that they would be able to find Jones, let alone fend him off without getting beaten half to death, good for you. Jackson, not quick enough or big enough, was cleaned up by McClellan, and after Benn-McClellan, Benn, Collins and Eubank were all pretty much done. Very short periods of success by comparison and you don't have to be a genius to see why they fought each other in England rather than come here and get humiliated.
Michael Nunn got KTFO by Toney and moved to 168 after that fight before Jones even fought Hopkins. Toney and Nunn were in the middle of setting up their rematch when Nunn lost and his next fight was above 190#. That led to Jones replacing Nunn and while Toney talked all kinds of ****, he won 2-3 rounds. Tops. NO INTEREST IN A REMATCH......
And Roy accomplished plenty at 175. McCallum at LHW was NOT a close fight. Jones carried him out of respect...........some people's brain-damaged children. He KO'd Virgil Hill and KO'd two guys that beat the heil out of Dariusz.....
Also, before Jones went to HW where he hoped it would be Holyfield, both before and after, the guy he 'ducked', Daruisz, was making 1.5 million per fight. He was offered $5 M on 3 different occasions to come to the US and fight Jones...........NOPE. DIDN"T WANT IT, Same With Rocchigiani though the offer was less, still more than triple his usual salary.
Jones v Hopkins 2 didn't happen because Hopkins thought he should get 50/50. Toney made damn sure to eat himself away from Jones the rest of his damn career.
Jones beat Tarver the first fight. After that, and a 'horrendous' record of 121-13 in the amateurs, he was done. After a long period of time, punch tolerance drops, particularly after what Jones foolishly did to his body.
Griffin gave him a rough night on a bad night. But Jones was in the middle of knocking his ass out and about to take the lead on the best possible scorecard for Griffin........did you see the fight?
Anything that happened after Jones-Tarver 2 is not worth talking about. He had lost a split second of reflexes that separated him from every fighter in history. Dariusz got beat by Gonzalez, who Jones had dropped 3 times in a 12 rd UD after a punch count of 51% to 15% and 195-91 and a score of 119-106. Tarver isn't exactly the shiniest example of greatness himself. He talked **** about Jones and dropping weight, then used the exact same excuse against Hopkins.
And you believe he should have given up all that weight to Lewis? That's a 'duck'..........that is absolutely ******ed. No LHW in history would have considered it. They fought HW back in the day because their walk around weight was only about 10 pounds different than HW. Jones beat Ruiz who beat Holyfield who beat Tyson......not exactly his fault that his one and done ended up being the least interesting choice but he still did it and came back too quickly, but still beat Tarver.
If he'd have been smart like he always promised he would, he'd have walked at 49-1, that 1 being a BS DQ, with 38 KO's and after McClellan-Benn, he asked the ref to stop many of those fights........he also could have knocked out others.
Vassily Jirov? Get serious. Calzaghe was offered a fight. During the prime of both fighters, same as Hopkins. Nunn would have been KO'd the same way he was vs Toney.
Take away the BS DQ and he just may well have walked at 50-0 w 39 KO's and I bet that would have KILLED YOU.......eh?
You're basically left with a couple of standing 8's in the amateurs, which mean very little, a couple of close scores in a bad scoring system, Tyson, Lewis and Vasily Jirov. Becasue when did anyone clamor for the Jirov fight?
Del Valle landed a bizarre temple shot, to which Jones jumped right up from. And when he beat Eric Harding as a mandatory it was because.......Oh yea, Harding beat Tarver and while Harding was an awkward opponent, he was behind on all cards when he retired on the stool.......
He also made several future champions look like complete bums, including one he beat the hell out of Dariusz......
Who had a chance? Maybe McClellan but he was so used to going short rounds, he probably would have gassed early and got KO'd. The rest of this is garbage. The Jones in the first Tarver fight, let alone the second, third and the one who fought Johnson was simply not the same.......
You're a clown. YDKSAB...........and I'd love to pull the documentation up to prove it, I don't have anymore time to waste on the UNDISPUTEDLY BEST FIGHTER FROM TONEY (arguably Hopkins 1) TO TARVER 1..........
So take this
and this before I really make you look like a :wank: with your cute little list........ and :****you:You can freely have Tiozzo, who made a career of beating up other Frenchmen, then KO'ing Dariusz after a comeback attempt 18 mos after losing to Gonzalez and after Jones had already lost.
You can also have all the post Tarver 1 fights because it's tantamount to saying that after losing his 5th MW title, Robinson turned himself into a bum.....you are entitled to that opinion.......but you don't get to use opinion as fact and go unchallenged in your bias.........what next, he shouldn't have been awarded the Val Barker trophy? SMDH
Go troll after someone else......check on all the guys Calzaghe didn't fight.....how about that? Or Benn? Any of the guys you mention.......have fun on your fool's errand, fool.
nice post. lots going on
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