Where Does Camacho Rank In The All Time Puerto Rican List

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  • Exciterx30
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
    It's hard to make a case for Cotto but his career isn't over, as for the Mancini win that was a robbery if it matters, I'd exclude that one.
    I think that was a highly contested fight in which Camacho deserved a close, but clear decision. I thought it was one of those 116-112 or 115-113 strategic, but action packed fights. By the way, I see that fight with a divided heart because I am a diehard Mancini fan also. Both Boom Boom and Macho make my top 5 list of favorite fighters of all time.

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    • CubanGuyNYC
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      #52
      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
      No it's not. 2 old ATGs>>>>>>>>>Borderline out of prime HOF. You have your opinion and I have mine. It's not even insulting one bit. I was lucky to see Duran/Leonard fight as a kid. Guess we can agree/disagree. Yes I do see Shane losing to Leonard but not Duran. Yes, even that old Leonard just based on style alone.
      There's just no way I can envision Mosley having any trouble against a 41-year-old Leonard, who hasn't fought in six years, let alone losing.

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        #53
        Cotto is getting WAY overrated, I don't even think hes HOF worthy. Placing him above Camacho is hilarious. Camacho's wins over Rosario and Ramirez >>>> anything on Cottos Resume.

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          #54
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
          There's just no way I can envision Mosley having any trouble against a 41-year-old Leonard, who hasn't fought in six years, let alone losing.
          It's absurd to envision Ray Leonard lasting 12 rounds.

          It's a ridiculous claim.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Exciterx24
            I think that was a highly contested fight in which Camacho deserved a close, but clear decision. I thought it was one of those 116-112 or 115-113 strategic, but action packed fights. By the way, I see that fight with a divided heart because I am a diehard Mancini fan also. Both Boom Boom and Macho make my top 5 list of favorite fighters of all time.
            I can't see it, Camacho gave up too many rounds literally doing nothing. I'm a fan of Camacho, more on what he displayed at 130 and some fights LW, he just put on some weird performances where he would rarely throw.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Cuauhtli.
              Cotto is getting WAY overrated, I don't even think hes HOF worthy. Placing him above Camacho is hilarious. Camacho's wins over Rosario and Ramirez >>>> anything on Cottos Resume.
              I like Cotto a lot but I think Camacho ranks higher

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              • Exciterx30
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                #57
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
                I can't see it, Camacho gave up too many rounds literally doing nothing. I'm a fan of Camacho, more on what he displayed at 130 and some fights LW, he just put on some weird performances where he would rarely throw.
                To me, the first time I saw the fight I thought Mancini might have won but it was because Camacho disappointed me in spots. Camacho, around 89 and 91, had a problem with stamina. He would start his fights like vintage Camacho and then give away the championship rounds, leaving the fan a bit dry. He did it against Pazienza, did it against Haugen and, certainly, against Mancini. I still think he deserved a close one though but I can see the Mancini win in someone else's eyes. I don't consider it a robbery though because it was close.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
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                  Originally Posted by Cu****uyNYC

                  There's just no way I can envision Mosley having any trouble against a 41-year-old Leonard, who hasn't fought in six years, let alone losing.

                  It's absurd to envision Ray Leonard lasting 12 rounds.

                  It's a ridiculous claim.
                  Did you know he likes to sht on Cotto every time he can? He dont like Cotto's fan base because we tend to overrate the ish out of him but he certainly cant debate with logic and transperancy when it comes to Cotto. We Cottards can be ****** sometimes, but we come to our senses every now and then. Not him.


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                  • CubanGuyNYC
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Exciterx24
                    I don't have a problem with disagreements. I just believe that these lists are always subjective and I believe in respecting that regardless of my preferences. If someone told me that Benítez is #1 in his list I would be okay with that. If someone told me Kermit Cintrón is part of his top 3 I would think it's either a troll or someone who does not know much. Still, if the person explains why x or y boxer is at the tops of his list, and it seems justified, I am okay with that even if I disagree. That's my take on these personal lists.
                    Lists are indeed subjective, but, in these cases, they're bound by the certain reasonable restrictions. It's one thing to interchange reasonable choices, it's another to insert (or omit) inconceivable ones. I essentially stated that in an earlier post, and you evidently agree.

                    What you're saying sounds nice, but it doesn't hold water. Can you honestly see how anyone can make a case for Kermit Cintron being among the greatest P.R. fighters of all time? If you don't laugh at that notion, you either have no sense of humor or you have incredible self-control.

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                    • Mr. Fantastic
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Ridiculous.

                      Obviously Mosley can't be compared to Leonard or Duran but the Duran and Leonard that Camacho fought are obviously much much much worse than Cotto's win over Mosley.

                      Mosley went on to become the #1 at WW. Duran and Leonard went on to do absolutely nothing and were both corpses.

                      And that version of Mosley would beat both of those versions of those two with absolute ease.

                      Camacho may have a better resume than Cotto but it's nothing to do with those worthless wins.
                      It's not ridiculous at all. Leonard didn't look too bad even for all that inactivity against Camacho. Mosley just didn't move like Camacho did, specially when not in prime. I'll take a great inactive aging boxer over a out of prime dude. You guys make it seem like Mosley could box like Camacho did in his prime. No way in hell.

                      Originally posted by jtcs1981
                      You saw those fights? Cry all you want about it but the version of Duran and SRL that fought Camacho will lose badly against the Cotto that beat Mosley. Those two W dont mean nothing in Camacho resume. BTW, Mosley went to be the #1 WW after the Cotto fight. It shows your bias badly man.

                      And before you jump in ****** conclusions, Camacho was better than Cotto, and by a wide margin. No one can deny he had skills. Too bad he like la vida loca


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                      Yes I did see those fights. Will lose badly against Cotto? We're talking about an out of prime Mosley. This he went on to become the #1 WW is laughable cause Margarito was already defeated before he even stepped in the ring. What Mosley went on to do after? Just become a laughing stock.

                      You calling me bias.....rofl!!! I'm not the one putting someone like Cotto over Camacho like some of your fellow Cottards do. **** take away Leonard/Duran and it's still sooooo lopsided for Camacho over Cotto.

                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      There's just no way I can envision Mosley having any trouble against a 41-year-old Leonard, who hasn't fought in six years, let alone losing.

                      That's your opinion and like I said I have mine. Mosley doesn't move like Camacho and I think even old Leonard would box him. But that's all in fantasy land.......the real deal is that Leonard/Duran...ATGs.

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