Where Does Camacho Rank In The All Time Puerto Rican List

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
    No it's not. 2 old ATGs>>>>>>>>>Borderline out of prime HOF. You have your opinion and I have mine. It's not even insulting one bit. I was lucky to see Duran/Leonard fight as a kid. Guess we can agree/disagree. Yes I do see Shane losing to Leonard but not Duran. Yes, even that old Leonard just based on style alone.
    Ridiculous.

    Obviously Mosley can't be compared to Leonard or Duran but the Duran and Leonard that Camacho fought are obviously much much much worse than Cotto's win over Mosley.

    Mosley went on to become the #1 at WW. Duran and Leonard went on to do absolutely nothing and were both corpses.

    And that version of Mosley would beat both of those versions of those two with absolute ease.

    Camacho may have a better resume than Cotto but it's nothing to do with those worthless wins.

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    • -Kev-
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      #42
      Just a question to those listing Cotto before Camacho. Which wins on Cotto's resume are better than wins like Haugen, Rosario, Pazienza, Ramirez, Davis Jr, Mancini, plus no knock out losses in 88 fights.


      I am genuinely asking, not starting a debate. I would like to see a list of Cotto wins that you guys think is better than this one.

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      • Miburo
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        #43
        Pretty surprised that so many are ranking Cotto CLEARLY over Camacho.

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          #44
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Just a question to those listing Cotto before Camacho. Which wins on Cotto's resume are better than wins like Haugen, Rosario, Pazienza, Ramirez, Davis Jr, Mancini, plus no knock out losses in 88 fights.


          I am genuinely asking, not starting a debate. I would like to see a list of Cotto wins that you guys think is better than this one.
          I think his win over Judah is comparable to some of those fights.

          Obviously the win over Mosley is as good of most of those.

          Off the top of my head I can't think of many more.

          Like I said, I would probably have Camacho above Cotto. His resume is very underrated and solid.

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          • boricuajr23
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            #45
            Originally posted by Exciterx24
            I don't have a problem with disagreements. I just believe that these lists are always subjective and I believe in respecting that regardless of my preferences. If someone told me that Benítez is #1 in his list I would be okay with that. If someone told me Kermit Cintrón is part of his top 3 I would think it's either a troll or someone who does not know much. Still, if the person explains why x or y boxer is at the tops of his list, and it seems justified, I am okay with that even if I disagree. That's my take on these personal lists.
            Good post. though I may disagree a slight bit with your list, i'm pretty sure you'll disagree with mine so its all the same. IMO you have the right fighters on your list which to me, thats all that really matters and its respected.

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            • Exciterx30
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              #46
              To me, Camacho's best win ever was the one over José Luis Ramírez. His most impressive one was against Rafael Limón. On the other hand, Cotto's best win is against a past prime, still competitive Shane Mosley and his most impressive win is against Carlos Quintana. By impressive I mean the best display against a world class opponent. By that, Camacho ranks higher.

              Then you go take a look at the whole resume and Camacho has Boza Edwards, Ray Mancini, Vinny Pazienza, and Greg Haugen. Cotto has Malignaggi, Judah, and Margarito. All in all, Camacho should be higher.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #47
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Just a question to those listing Cotto before Camacho. Which wins on Cotto's resume are better than wins like Haugen, Rosario, Pazienza, Ramirez, Davis Jr, Mancini, plus no knock out losses in 88 fights.


                I am genuinely asking, not starting a debate. I would like to see a list of Cotto wins that you guys think is better than this one.
                It's hard to make a case for Cotto but his career isn't over, as for the Mancini win that was a robbery if it matters, I'd exclude that one.

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                • boricuajr23
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Just a question to those listing Cotto before Camacho. Which wins on Cotto's resume are better than wins like Haugen, Rosario, Pazienza, Ramirez, Davis Jr, Mancini, plus no knock out losses in 88 fights.


                  I am genuinely asking, not starting a debate. I would like to see a list of Cotto wins that you guys think is better than this one.
                  there have only been 2 that I counted that i've seen place Cotto over Camacho here which was TS and I think Huracan58. I've have always had a hard time placing Cotto over Camacho but I dont think Cotto is far behind him to ignore a debate or comparison. I think a win over Martinez at 160 will truly help Cotto make a case though. My opinion though. Some may think he will need more than that.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
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                    Originally Posted by Cu****uyNYC

                    I agree that Camacho belongs above Cotto. But Mosley alone was still a better win than the shells of those two living legends. He may not have been at his best, but it's insulting to Shane to say he wasn't as good a win as the ghosts of Duran and Leonard. lol Put it this way: Can you see Shane losing to the Duran or Leonard that "Macho" beat?

                    No it's not. 2 old ATGs>>>>>>>>>Borderline out of prime HOF. You have your opinion and I have mine. It's not even insulting one bit. I was lucky to see Duran/Leonard fight as a kid. Guess we can agree/disagree. Yes I do see Shane losing to Leonard but not Duran. Yes, even that old Leonard just based on style alone.
                    You saw those fights? Cry all you want about it but the version of Duran and SRL that fought Camacho will lose badly against the Cotto that beat Mosley. Those two W dont mean nothing in Camacho resume. BTW, Mosley went to be the #1 WW after the Cotto fight. It shows your bias badly man.

                    And before you jump in ****** conclusions, Camacho was better than Cotto, and by a wide margin. No one can deny he had skills. Too bad he like la vida loca


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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Exciterx24
                      To me, Camacho's best win ever was the one over José Luis Ramírez. His most impressive one was against Rafael Limón. On the other hand, Cotto's best win is against a past prime, still competitive Shane Mosley and his most impressive win is against Carlos Quintana. By impressive I mean the best display against a world class opponent. By that, Camacho ranks higher.

                      Then you go take a look at the whole resume and Camacho has Boza Edwards, Ray Mancini, Vinny Pazienza, and Greg Haugen. Cotto has Malignaggi, Judah, and Margarito. All in all, Camacho should be higher.
                      Agreed with his best win being over Ramirez.

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