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  • garfios
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    #51
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    Vazquez is in the same ballpark as Ramos "accomplishment" wise, but he's better, more marketable, more fighter than Rico. Mathebula is not more marketable, but he's more proven than any Rigo opponent since Cordoba.
    You can't have it both way, either you are good or not, and the only time Mathebula step up he loss, caballero/donaire(althought he gave a good account of himself) marketable or not he didn't win his belt against a Champ, Ramos did, we talking about accomplisment not marketability

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    • devildg
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      #52
      he is below Mares and Moreno

      i would like to see Vasquez vs. Rigo next

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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Of course. But you know very well that he isn't going to fight them because they are with Golden Boy. Bob Arum won't make those fights for him.

        Rigo shouldn't have resigned with Top Rank. Arum won't even give him Donaire despite the fact that he promotes both of them.
        I think you're right about Golden Boy, but Arum seems to want the Donaire-Rigondeaux fight now. He's been bringing it up in interviews a lot as a match he'd like to make. It's Nonito himself who keeps making the excuses.

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        • garfios
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          #54
          Originally posted by devildg
          he is below Mares and Moreno

          i would like to see Vasquez vs. Rigo next
          Why he is below, because you say so? A win over Morel doesn't give him the edge and Moreno hasn't fought in the division, so I can't see your logic,

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            #55
            Originally posted by garfios
            You can't have it both way, either you are good or not, and the only time Mathebula step up he loss, caballero/donaire(althought he gave a good account of himself) marketable or not he didn't win his belt against a Champ, Ramos did, we talking about accomplisment not marketability
            actually he did againts a chmapion in ndlovu

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              #56
              Originally posted by garfios
              You can't have it both way, either you are good or not, and the only time Mathebula step up he loss, caballero/donaire(althought he gave a good account of himself) marketable or not he didn't win his belt against a Champ, Ramos did, we talking about accomplisment not marketability
              I thought Mathebula beat caballero, who was way better than shimoda, but didnt get the dec in panama. And looked better doing it than Rico losing all rounds before the ko. I've seen at least 5 Ramos fights, and he's only looked good once, one shotting a cracked chin journeyman.

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              • garfios
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                #57
                I'm going to say something that I know and not too many knows about it, Rigondeaux didn't want to fight Marroquin, his trainer have to get him out of his bed and explain him that he will be suit and lose a lots of time and money, he was frustrated with the court and all the $h1t that was happening, regardless of who was at fault, still he went there and won a clear dec against a kid with a heck of amateur resume and power in both hands, I c a bright future for Marroquin and his next few fight will tell what kind of fighter he is.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  I thought Mathebula beat caballero, who was way better than shimoda, but didnt get the dec in panama. And looked better doing it than Rico losing all rounds before the ko. I've seen at least 5 Ramos fights, and he's only looked good once, one shotting a cracked chin journeyman.
                  Did you watch Caballero-Mathebula fight, and did you mis the part where I say that he gave a good account of himself? The point is that we don't have a Wilfredo Gomez or Panama Al Brown in the division, none of them can claim the #1 spot unless they fight against each other, so again how do you rate them in their current WD?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by garfios
                    Did you watch Caballero-Mathebula fight, and did you mis the part where I say that he gave a good account of himself? The point is that we don't have a Wilfredo Gomez or Panama Al Brown in the division, none of them can claim the #1 spot unless they fight against each other, so again how do you rate them in their current WD?
                    I did stream the fight live, I was surprised this beanpole was giving Caba the business. He didn't know how to deal with a guy same height. So that's 2 times Mathebula has overperformed against a Ring top 10 p4per!

                    I have no issue with Donaire Rigo now or later. I'd prefer later, except sure seems like Donaire is ducking him. Not sure why, maybe he's feeling disrespected, as he maybe should.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      I did stream the fight live, I was surprised this beanpole was giving Caba the business. He didn't know how to deal with a guy same height. So that's 2 times Mathebula has overperformed against a Ring top 10 p4per!

                      I have no issue with Donaire Rigo now or later. I'd prefer later, except sure seems like Donaire is ducking him. Not sure why, maybe he's feeling disrespected, as he maybe should.
                      If he feel disrespected he is a very insecure guy, GR hasn't being rude or nothing like that...

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