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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #101
    Originally posted by Yaman
    What you are asking evidence for are mentioned and talked about in numerous books, taken from documented police reports. You see, if somebody were to lie about Washington having unsuccessfully accused 4 other men of **** before and many other things, they would get sued beyond belief with ease as that is a serious issue that this woman would have exploited, and those issues make her look so bad in this case.
    Please provide names of these "numerous books," links or copies to the alleged police reports, and I'll be happy to read them. As I've made clear, it wouldn't be the first time I've changed my mind about this case.

    Originally posted by Yaman
    The reason Tyson has so many backers on his innocense isn't because he said so himself, it's because of the issues I've mentioned. I'll round most of them up again:
    -Her history of falsely accusing people of raping her.
    -Going to Tyson's room at 3 am(with her history, there is zero chance of her being this naive) and saying she did that to get an autograph for her father.
    -The only evidence being the cab driver as the witness, and the small ******* bruises that apparently would be the only injuries a tiny young woman would suffer if the most dangerous fighter in the world were to **** her.
    -Don King's Tax attorney botching the case so badly, but still doing good enough to get a deal of Tyson going to prison less than a year if he were to plead guilty, which he refused profusely.
    -The people of the jury who convicted him, later on changing their minds as they realised what a joke of a trial it was.
    Tyson has "so many backers" because, in my opinion, most people don't care to read; they can't be bothered with facts that might tarnish their image of their idol; they are too embroiled in Tyson's cult of personality to care; or they're apologists for a man they happen to like (for whatever reason).

    I'd love to know why you think it's okay to trust the judgment of those jurors (whoever they might be) now, but not when they condemned an "innocent" man to prison on a **** charge. In the United States of America, you must have all jurors in a criminal trial agree on a verdict. Not some, not most...all. Not one person had enough misgivings about the case that they would cast a dissenting vote when it mattered, but now they do? I wouldn't trust a thing they say.

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    • Japanese Boxing
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      #102
      Tyson has said in interviews he enjoys humilating women and f|_|cking them rough... At least when he was younger he did. So even if it was consensual he could have hit it hard enough etc. She knew what she was getting into and I don't think he ****d her. I think he tapped her harder than she's been before though.

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      • I Love Jesus!
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        #103
        Originally posted by La_Vibora
        First off you mention that you thought that Mike was "railroaded" but then later changed your mind, out of curiousity what was this great shred of evidence that changed your mind?As for your comment about Desiree never seeking any money out of it, that's because she couldn't, I don't remember the exact details of it so maybe someone else who remembers will, but she accidentally said something while on the stand that ruined any chance of her filing a civil suit, so don't be delusioned into thinking that she wasnt going to try to get some money out of it.

        I hate to say it, but a lot of you guys sound like you had somewhat sheltered lives in that you have never come across shady people like this. I think that is why you guys keep making arguments like "but why would she lie?" or actually buy into the "damsel in distress" act and write her actions off as her being a naive 18 year old.

        where did you here that load of crap

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        • Reloaded
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          #104
          Originally posted by Arthur Daley
          That sounds exactly like something somebody would say who did commit a ****.
          How do you figure that ?

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          • Mike Tyson77
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            #105
            Tysons done alot of bad things that he owns up to. Still to this day he says he didnt **** that women, I dont think he did. Even in prison he said he would not admit to it even if it would reduce his sentence.

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            • BKM-
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              #106
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              Please provide names of these "numerous books," links or copies to the alleged police reports, and I'll be happy to read them. As I've made clear, it wouldn't be the first time I've changed my mind about this case.

              http://www.amazon.com/Falsely-Accuse.../dp/B00597SCLS
              This may be all you need while you are trying to tell me what to do. I got the impression that you implied that it is not true that Washington has had several cases where she falsely accused other men of raping her. Are you really this desperate or did I get the wrong impression from you?


              Tyson has "so many backers" because, in my opinion, most people don't care to read; they can't be bothered with facts that might tarnish their image of their idol; they are too embroiled in Tyson's cult of personality to care; or they're apologists for a man they happen to like (for whatever reason).
              This is really ironic. I mean this is coming from you of all people. You've basicely ignored the significant issues I pointed out and continued to dwell on Tyson being guilty no matter what.

              I'd love to know why you think it's okay to trust the judgment of those jurors (whoever they might be) now, but not when they condemned an "innocent" man to prison on a **** charge. In the United States of America, you must have all jurors in a criminal trial agree on a verdict. Not some, not most...all. Not one person had enough misgivings about the case that they would cast a dissenting vote when it mattered, but now they do? I wouldn't trust a thing they say.
              Since you'd love to know I'll tell you.The brilliant tax attorney that defended Mike came up with perhaps one of the greatest defenses in any court's history. Which was something similar to the way Farakhan defended Mike: She acted foolish by going to Mike's room at night, she should of known the dangers, almost as if it was entrapment. In short, that's how Mike's case was presented in court. Looking at it now, I would have been surprised if Mike wasn't found fuilty by those jurors considering the imbecile that was on his side trying to free him.

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              • The Noose
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                #107
                Originally posted by Yaman
                What you are asking evidence for are mentioned and talked about in numerous books, taken from documented police reports. You see, if somebody were to lie about Washington having unsuccessfully accused 4 other men of **** before and many other things, they would get sued beyond belief with ease as that is a serious issue that this woman would have exploited, and those issues make her look so bad in this case.

                The reason Tyson has so many backers on his innocense isn't because he said so himself, it's because of the issues I've mentioned. I'll round most of them up again:
                -Her history of falsely accusing people of raping her.
                -Going to Tyson's room at 3 am(with her history, there is zero chance of her being this naive) and saying she did that to get an autograph for her father.
                -The only evidence being the cab driver as the witness, and the small ******* bruises that apparently would be the only injuries a tiny young woman would suffer if the most dangerous fighter in the world were to **** her.
                -Don King's Tax attorney botching the case so badly, but still doing good enough to get a deal of Tyson going to prison less than a year if he were to plead guilty, which he refused profusely.
                -The people of the jury who convicted him, later on changing their minds as they realised what a joke of a trial it was
                .
                Her history of accusing men of **** would be pretty damning evidence against her. Il have to look into it. But if its just rumours or actual police statements is important.

                I dont see why her going to his room at 3am goes against her. At his peak of fame, most people wouldnt turn down the chance to meet him at any time of the day or night. And even if it suggests she thought he wanted sex, doesnt mean he didnt **** her. Like her just turning meant she absolutely HAD to have sex with him?

                Raping someone doesnt automatically mean you physically assault them. So the small bruises on her vagina imo means nothing either way. Many girls are so scared they can barley move, so no fight occurs, and therefore there are no physical bruises.

                But yea, ive heard the trial was a joke and he shouldnt have been convicted. But again, we dont know if he's guilty or not.

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                • The Noose
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                  #108
                  Interesting stuff...

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                  • Jam Jars
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                    #109
                    A lot of you like to bring up Desiree's past which should also be done with Tyson. He's had an history of violence, domestic abuse and he groped an underage girl. If anyone was capable of **** it was Mike Tyson.

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                    • UglyPug
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by SekondzOut
                      most ex-convict's lives have been transformed into hell by society after they were released....they carry the bad boy tag where ever they go.... they served their sentences, but society has decided to sentence them for life...thats real ***'d up bu thats how **** is.....but New Zealand has the 2nd highest imprisonment ofall the Western countries behind only the US



                      http://criminology.blog.co.uk/2011/1...e-up-12058371/


                      If you **** somebody, you should have a stigma attached to you.

                      It doesn't mean you should be "punished" for it afterwards, but it does mean your rights will be limited thereafter.

                      Traveling to other countries is not even a "right," it's a PRIVILEGE. He's going there because he has an opportunity to make money. . . Nobody is forcing him to go.

                      Other countries have the right to scrutinize somebody's past if they are letting them in their country.

                      He should be thankful they even gave him the chance to explain himself, rather than just simply deny him admission.

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