Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Loses Temper Over **** Case Question

[BKM-]

Some of the points you make I know are backed by fact. Some of the others, like Desiree's alleged, earlier false accusations, I've heard about but have yet to see reliable evidence for. (I read something once about an accusation she supposedly made after the Tyson incident and later retracted. I have yet to see hard evidence.)

You're correct in saying that Tyson didn't have the best legal representation available to him. How that happened, I'll never know. Tyson and Don King obviously had the resources to retain the best legal council money could buy. Instead...well, you know the rest....

You're possibly right in saying that, if Tyson had a top defense lawyer, he wouldn't have gone to prison. But would that have meant he wasn't guilty? I seem to recall a certain other famous case where a celebrity former athlete literally got away with murder because he had a team of star lawyers defending him.

What you are asking evidence for are mentioned and talked about in numerous books, taken from documented police reports. You see, if somebody were to lie about Washington having unsuccessfully accused 4 other men of **** before and many other things, they would get sued beyond belief with ease as that is a serious issue that this woman would have exploited, and those issues make her look so bad in this case.

The reason Tyson has so many backers on his innocense isn't because he said so himself, it's because of the issues I've mentioned. I'll round most of them up again:
-Her history of falsely accusing people of raping her.
-Going to Tyson's room at 3 am(with her history, there is zero chance of her being this naive) and saying she did that to get an autograph for her father.
-The only evidence being the cab driver as the witness, and the small ******* bruises that apparently would be the only injuries a tiny young woman would suffer if the most dangerous fighter in the world were to **** her.
-Don King's Tax attorney botching the case so badly, but still doing good enough to get a deal of Tyson going to prison less than a year if he were to plead guilty, which he refused profusely.
-The people of the jury who convicted him, later on changing their minds as they realised what a joke of a trial it was.

[UglyPug]

Funny how judgemental u are w/ the picture of a super drug addict as ur avi....but wutever. Regardless of the conviction...there were still unanswered questions regarding the event...wutever u believe is still conjecture....fa**it!

Lol wut? Adamek???

LOL, what the **** does raping a woman have to do with a drug addict anyway? Drug addiction is a victimless crime. **** is the most dastardly thing you can do to another.

I have no tolerance for rapists. None.

[UglyPug]

do you know any info about the case? Like how she had a history of falsely accusing people of ****. she also got a million dollar settlement. but only 2 people know what really happened

I did hear that she had accused a previous boyfriend. . . That doesn't mean Mike didn't **** her. I still think Tyson's history, violent tendencies, and general behavior balance that fact out.

So she sued him civilly too? I don't blame her.


"He called me a rapist, and a recluse. I'm not a recluse." - Mike Tyson.

[UglyPug]

I'd be pissed too if I was repeatedly asked questions about a crime I did time for 20 years after it happened.

Cool. then don't try to travel to another country unless you want to abide by their policies, and rules.

Nobody is forcing Mike to go to New Zealand. . .

[CubanGuyNYC]

First off you mention that you thought that Mike was "railroaded" but then later changed your mind, out of curiousity what was this great shred of evidence that changed your mind? As for your comment about Desiree never seeking any money out of it, that's because she couldn't, I don't remember the exact details of it so maybe someone else who remembers will, but she accidentally said something while on the stand that ruined any chance of her filing a civil suit, so don't be delusioned into thinking that she wasnt going to try to get some money out of it.

I hate to say it, but a lot of you guys sound like you had somewhat sheltered lives in that you have never come across shady people like this. I think that is why you guys keep making arguments like "but why would she lie?" or actually buy into the "damsel in distress" act and write her actions off as her being a naive 18 year old.

My earlier belief of Tyson's innocence was based on certain information. Years later, I read "Bad Intentions: The Mike Tyson Story," by Peter Heller. The author revealed some things about the case and about Ms. Washington that I was unaware of. Heller, and subsequent, independent research, swayed me in the other direction. Like I said in the post you cite: "I'm not convinced, but I lean much more toward the belief that Tyson did what he was convicted of."

I don't have any knowledge of a legal inability for Desiree Washington to sue Mike Tyson (except for the usual statute of limitations). Nonetheless, a person can profit from a crime committed towards them in more ways than simply suing the person that wronged them. Desiree could've gone on the talk-show circuit and cashed in on the interest of the case, and of Mike Tyson in general. She could've written a book and done the same. Many more people have done far more with far less.

If you're lumping me in with the statement, "a lot of you guys sound like you had somewhat sheltered lives," you're terribly mistaken. Don't let my prose fool you. Let's just say that I'm quite aware that "There are animals out here disguised as human beings," to quote Cus D'Amato. I wonder if you see the irony in your statement. Why is it all right to make that observation about a bunch of posters on an Internet boxing forum, but not about an eighteen-year-old beauty pageant contestant from Rhode Island?

[I Love Jesus!]

I do too - I think the worst travesty of justice is when an innocent person is wrongfully convicted.

I just don't see anything that cries out "TYSON IS NOT GUILTY"!

Semantics - you're judged by a jury comprised of citizens. It's not perfect, but it's the best system that has been developed.

I'm convinced you're just a hardcore Tyson fan, like most are who blindly defend him. So debating you about this will be useless.

"He called me a racpist, and a recluse. . . I'm not a recluse." - Mike Tyson. LOL. . .

well that's just ******. what do you think you're the only guy who ever heard or looked into the case over the years? Anyone who disagrees with you is just some tyson super fan. Pretty simplistic

[UglyPug]

I met Mike a while ago. Not that that makes any difference.
As far as the bold, i dont believe if it happened, it happened that way.

My personal take is that she went to his room, he just grabbed her and ****ed her, like he would do with most women at that time (according to him admitting he loves to dominate woman in bed, plus woman describing how he ****ed them).
Its only while he is ****ing her that she wants him to stop because she hates it.
So to mike, he is just ****ing. But in her mind, she is being ****d.

The only question i have, is did she say out loud "Stop, please stop"? Thats what she states. Maybe Mike didnt hear her. Maybe women had said that before but he continued and they didnt complain (some woman say it in a giggly, teasing way....if u do stop, they say "why did u stop? I want u to dominate me"...sounds like bs, but it happens)

So he could have ****d her without realising it. But did she tell him to stop or not?
We'll never know.

I think this is a very reasonable take on the situation.

I most definitely could see something like this scenario happening.

[UglyPug]

well that's just ******. what do you think you're the only guy who ever heard or looked into the case over the years? Anyone who disagrees with you is just some tyson super fan. Pretty simplistic

No. But anybody who says "I'll never believe mike ****d her unless he says he did it," comes across as one with too inherently of a biased view to have a logical debate with.

[I Love Jesus!]

I met Mike Tyson at a fight in Atlantic City back in 1987 and honestly he was a complete and utter a$$wipe. Most of the time I can give people the benefit of the doubt so he could have just been haven a bad day. As far as the **** case is concerned. In all honesty as much we want to debate this the only two people on this planet that truly know what happened in that room were the two that were in the room. And in my opinion even if the young woman stripped all the way down to just her panties and then decided against having sex and said no. Then its **** and a jury decided that it was in fact ****. And the problem with Mike is that after all these years he may simply still believe that it was consensual sex. After all he was Mike Tyson and this young lady was suppose to be in awe of him and gravel at his feet. And I thought I had read somewhere that Teddy Atlas once put a gun to Mike's head for doing something or attempting to do something to another young woman. So, just maybe there was a history of abuse. I also have to ask did the young lady ever sue Mike Tyson?

yeah she got a milllion in a confidential settlement. dont ask how the million got out cuz i dont know

[Mr. Philadel]

most ex-convict's lives have been transformed into hell by society after they were released....they carry the bad boy tag where ever they go.... they served their sentences, but society has decided to sentence them for life...thats real ***'d up bu thats how **** is.....but New Zealand has the 2nd highest imprisonment ofall the Western countries behind only the US

New Zealand a vengeful society

We may be peaceful, but we also seem to be vengeful; and for those who commit crime, prison has increasingly become New Zealand’s punishment of choice. The only Western country with a higher rate of imprisonment than ours is the United States - which locks up a massive 748 people per 100,000. The imprisonment rate for Maori is 704 per 100,000 of Maori population, which is not far off the US rate.

These are disturbing figures, of which most New Zealanders are probably unaware. There is a similar lack of awareness about the number of New Zealanders sent to prison each year. The daily prison muster is currently at 8,755 - but this figure is deceptive, as the prison population is very fluid.

http://criminology.blog.co.uk/2011/1...e-up-12058371/