Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Loses Temper Over **** Case Question

[CubanGuyNYC]

what would you have liked them to do to Tyson then? give him the death sentence? shun him from tv for ever?

The criminal justice system is flawed in several ways. The cracks can work for or against the accused. To answer your question directly: No, I don't think Tyson should've gotten the death sentence. The punishment should fit the crime. If Tyson is truly guilty, denying him television exposure would perhaps be appropriate (although undeniably impossible).

The point of my earlier post was simply that it's easy to say "he's paid his debt" and "let's move on" when you or a loved one isn't affected by someone's actions. There are no easy answers, regardless of what side of the fence you're on.

[alza1988]

Tysons a G man quality

[MASTER1454]

The incessant defending of Mike Tyson's past has got to stop! !

He was an animal during his early days who among other things threatened to ****** Teddy Atlas' 11 year old niece and was recorded on camera telling a female interviewer to have sex with him or leave the room.

Tyson is an all time great boxer but lets not pretend that raping a women was in any way uncharacteristic of his former self.

He shouldn't have any business in a country he has been understandably banned from but he persisted in gaining entry on his own accord, and so should be expected to answer some uncomfortable questions from the native tabloids.

No one is defending his past by no means (BTW he was enabled by Cus D'Amato - let's not forget that part, because that forged made him what he became as you said: an animal) but don't you think that other females would have came forward if he's such an animal? And for people conducting business with criminals, what about Roman Polanski's perverted a$$, who drugged, ****d & sodomized a 13 year-old (& was convicted in absentia because he fled the US) & is still not only making movies, but WON an Oscar AFTERWARDS. Rob Lowe, another one who's making movies after having sex on tape with a minor. What's your take on those 2?

[CubanGuyNYC]

You are embarassing yourself in this thread making these long posts when you don't even know what you're talking about.

Instead of thinking "look at him he was an aggressive guy, so he must have done it" you could actually look at the details and facts of the case.

The fact that Washington had a history of wrongfully accusing others of **** before(all dismissed). A girl with that kind of history is going up to Tyson's room at night because she's 'naive'? Yeah sure. Or the fact that Tyson's defense was Don King's tax attorney who botched the case so badly, that after some time after the conviction a lot of jury members of that case changed their minds about the conviction. Or that Tyson could have only served a couple of months at best if he said he was guilty, but then responded that he would rather face life in prison than have to admit to doing something he didn't do.
You know what Desiree claimed when asked why she went to Tyson's room at 3 in the morning? She wanted an autograph for her dad. Yeah.
Or the fact that really the only evidence presented for Washington was a cab driver who claimed she looked distressed on the way back, and two small ******* abrasions(no other physical injuries whatsoever) that the doctor discovered. Now really, if a young Tyson were to violently **** a tiny 18 year old girl, do you really think that two small bruises in her lying **** are going to be the only injuries she suffers?

A lot can be said about this old topic, but I would bet a ton that if you went back in time and gave Tyson a great lawyer he would not have gone to prison.

Some of the points you make I know are backed by fact. Some of the others, like Desiree's alleged, earlier false accusations, I've heard about but have yet to see reliable evidence for. (I read something once about an accusation she supposedly made after the Tyson incident and later retracted. I have yet to see hard evidence.)

You're correct in saying that Tyson didn't have the best legal representation available to him. How that happened, I'll never know. Tyson and Don King obviously had the resources to retain the best legal council money could buy. Instead...well, you know the rest....

You're possibly right in saying that, if Tyson had a top defense lawyer, he wouldn't have gone to prison. But would that have meant he wasn't guilty? I seem to recall a certain other famous case where a celebrity former athlete literally got away with murder because he had a team of star lawyers defending him.

[La_Vibora]

As several people have already stated, only two people truly know what happened on the night in question. For the sake of discussion, I'll offer my two cents:

Years ago, I believed Mike Tyson was railroaded. I no longer feel that way. I'm not convinced, but I lean much more toward the belief that Tyson did what he was convicted of.

Clearly, Desiree Washington should not have gone up to Tyson's room at all, especially at such a late hour. But is it so far-fetched that an 18 year-old girl from a small town in Rhode Island could be so naive?

Tyson was regarded in a very different light from what we know today. He was this giggly kid who was seen as so wholesome that he was doing Pepsi commercials and selling video games with his name on them. Anybody remember that? This was, of course, before the conviction, the infamous "Oprah" interview and Tyson's very public baring of his inner-self.

As far as I know, Desiree never sought any kind of financial gain or exposure from her fateful encounter with Mike Tyson. In fact, I'll bet that many of the members here couldn't recall her name before they read it in this post. (This is fairly uncommon in this day and age, where everyone is trying to "get paid," no matter how humiliating their story.)

I tend to agree with some of the people that speculate Tyson is capable of admitting his crime publicly after all these years. He seems truly remorseful for his past life, calling himself a "pig" and a "piece of ****." (Does that sound like someone incapable of ****?)

Tyson may very well believe he never ****d Desiree, or even be in denial about it. In his mind, the very fact that a young woman came up to his hotel room at a late hour could very well have meant she was consenting to sex. If that's the case, his thinking explains his actions, but it doesn't excuse them.

First off you mention that you thought that Mike was "railroaded" but then later changed your mind, out of curiousity what was this great shred of evidence that changed your mind? As for your comment about Desiree never seeking any money out of it, that's because she couldn't, I don't remember the exact details of it so maybe someone else who remembers will, but she accidentally said something while on the stand that ruined any chance of her filing a civil suit, so don't be delusioned into thinking that she wasnt going to try to get some money out of it.

I hate to say it, but a lot of you guys sound like you had somewhat sheltered lives in that you have never come across shady people like this. I think that is why you guys keep making arguments like "but why would she lie?" or actually buy into the "damsel in distress" act and write her actions off as her being a naive 18 year old.

[BKM-]

The incessant defending of Mike Tyson's past has got to stop! !

He was an animal during his early days who among other things threatened to ****** Teddy Atlas' 11 year old niece and was recorded on camera telling a female interviewer to have sex with him or leave the room.

Tyson is an all time great boxer but lets not pretend that raping a women was in any way uncharacteristic of his former self.

He shouldn't have any business in a country he has been understandably banned from but he persisted in gaining entry on his own accord, and so should be expected to answer some uncomfortable questions from the native tabloids.

Way to completely distort facts. You should apply for a job on that channel, you'd fit in perfectly.
First off about Atlas' niece, he grabbed her behind. That's all he did. He didn't threaten to **** her as you put it in your propaganda spreading ways.

And if you really took that smack talk of the female journalist seriously then you may need a reality check and God forbid you actually watch his outburst at the Lewis press conference, you would seriously believe he'd publicly ****** a grown man in front of the whole civilised world, because he SAID that.

And he did not 'persist in gaining entry on his own accord'. If you bothered to watch this interview Tyson was absolutely ok with not being allowed to enter NZ if that was to be the case.

Some of you are losing touch on reality. Raping a woman is one of the most horrible crimes a human being can commit. There is a world of difference between doing something to that extent compared to what you've seen him do or say on footage only. If you're seriously basing your beliefs on "well this guy said some ****ed up things, he probably would **** a woman too" instead of actually studying the trial of this **** conviction.

[nysoxfan84]

I agree - he's served his prison time. He shouldn't have it brought up all the time.

However, other countries damn well reserve the right on who they let in their country.

So it's New Zealand's right to scrutinize Tyson before letting him come to their beautiful country. It's not like he's convicted of stealing a candy bar - he's a convicted rapist.

He should be thankful they let him in their country to do his thing, and make money.

So people convicted of **** don't already exist in New Zealand? By that logic, they should exile every New Zealander who's a **** convict to protect their oh-so beautiful, ****-free society.

[Bravado]

Nobody will ever know what happens but it seems that people here are judging Mike Tyson harshly based upon his past activities. Saying that since he has shown flashes of being irresponsible, that he is in fact irresponsible. Desiree Washington has screamed **** in the past because of her father being such a strict and domineering man. I don't believe he did it. Just because he's a wildman doesn't mean he actually did it.

[I Love Jesus!]

LOL, you've never met Mike Tyson in your life. Everybody here has seen, and heard him.

I think he is capable of ****, and I believe he did **** her. He probably was angry, and she knew how to push his buttons to make it worse, and he snapped, and ****d her.

He went to court, that means all the evidence there could possibly be, from BOTH sides, were presented. Obviously a jury of his peers did not find any reasonable doubt that he was not guilty. . . Are there wrongful convictions? Sure there are! I don't see any reason to doubt his innocence more than the next man who claims he's innocent, though. In fact, judging by the behavior I have seen, I think he is guilty of raping her.

Why would he admit he ****d a woman? Mike is no fool. . He knows he still has a name, and a persona to make money off of. If he admitted he ****d her, nobody would touch him, and he'd be broke again. . . .

do you know any info about the case? Like how she had a history of falsely accusing people of ****. she also got a million dollar settlement. but only 2 people know what really happened

[La_Vibora]

Some of the points you make I know are backed by fact. Some of the others, like Desiree's alleged, earlier false accusations, I've heard about but have yet to see reliable evidence for. (I read something once about an accusation she supposedly made after the Tyson incident and later retracted. I have yet to see hard evidence.)

You're correct in saying that Tyson didn't have the best legal representation available to him. How that happened, I'll never know. Tyson and Don King obviously had the resources to retain the best legal council money could buy. Instead...well, you know the rest....

You're possibly right in saying that, if Tyson had a top defense lawyer, he wouldn't have gone to prison. But would that have meant he wasn't guilty? I seem to recall a certain other famous case where a celebrity former athlete literally got away with murder because he had a team of star lawyers defending him.

Couldn't it be possible that Tyson being innocent made him view the false accussations as such a big joke that he didn't even feel the need to waste the money to hire a real lawyer? I mean surely if you really are guilty and know it, you wouldn't play around with your life by not hiring the best lawyer possible. I think if he were truly guilty he would have made sure he had Johnny Cochran or the absolute best he could get.