Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: Mayweather is The Best, But I Beat Him!

[hitking]

I can't believe that people are still on this "Mayweather is scared of Pacquaio, Mayweather ducks tough fights, Pac is greater than Mayweather" nonsense. People, Pac has arguably lost his last two fights. Personally, I had him losing 7-5 to JMM and winning 7-5 against Bradley. But I definitely couldn't put up too much fight against someone saying he lost both. Dan Rafael, who hates Floyd Mayweather like no other, has Pac down to #4 on his P4P list. Pac is down to #3 on the Yahoo list. Matter of fact, there's not a credible list out there that has Pac #1. He's not the best and never was. He's no different than the DLHs, Titos, Mosleys, and even B-Hops of the world who had "stints" as the P4P #1 when it was clear to everyone that didn't flat out hate the guy that Roy Jones was the true P4P King during the time. Pac is in rebuild mode. He needs to get a win against an elite fighter. And then, maybe then can he be taken seriously again as the best of his era or best now. But until then, all the BS about Mayweather being scared of this and that is nonsense. The guy just got outta lockup. Let Pac beat JMM convincingly, something he has failed to do in three tries. Until then, I don't wanna even hear the Mayweather ducking Pac nonsense cause there's nothing to duck. And as for Martinez, let him try not getting put on his ass by an unproven prospect before he flaps gums about being the best. And fight Ward. Its funny he's always calling out smaller guys but turns ***** when it comes to fighting a bigger one. I mean the "I'm too small" **** needs to stop. This cat weighed 176 30 days before his fight with Chavez. I think Ward weighed about 180 30 days before his fight with Dawson. Martinez aint near as "little" as he claims to be.

[MamaHuevo]

Lets not get carried away. The Ward fight is more makeable than 4 of the 5 above. What's stopping him?

Damn do any of you guys read Ward said he would love to fight Martinez but he said he is to small for that weight class. Martinez has said it would be an honor to fight Ward possibly at a catchweight. Martinez is to small for that division. Whats stopping him is the Dollar Signs $$$$ he sees if he fights Mayweather smart guy.

[MamaHuevo]

Mayweather might not be man enough to face Martinez, he won't even face the smaller Pacquiao.

But is Sergio man enough to face the Son of God Andre Ward?

He already said it would me an honor to fight Ward but at a catchweight.

[MamaHuevo]

He'd hide under a rock to stay away from Andre Ward.

Nope u must be smoking some good stuff MARTINEZ ALREADY SAID HE WOULD BE HONORED TO FIGHT WARD AT A CATCH WEIGHT. WARD HAS SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO FIGHT MARTINEZ BUT HE IS TOO SMALL FOR THE 168LBS DIVISION AND WARD WILL NO GO DOWN IN WEIGHT. JEEEZ I GUESS THE MAJORITY OF THE POSTERS ON THIS DONT FREAKING READ.....

[MASTER1454]

Trying to cash out already.

Give Chavez his rematch puto.

No, give Simple Cracker Jack Chavez a blunt, puto.....

The best? At what? Certainly its not boxing after Cotto beat his ass and got robbed.

The same Cotto that Pac destroyed easily and made do the moonwalk for half the fight

And actually the version that Pac fought was closer to prime

Cotto beat who? Did you watch the fight before or after your eye surgery?

So Manny gives rematches to people Like Torrecampo and Singsurat? Didn't think so. Floyd on the other hand gave a rematch to Castillo in his only controversial win. Whereas Manny wouldn't even rematch Bradley.

You had to bring up Singsurat, the body snatcher, LOL.....

Agreed or at least move up to a 168 LBS and challenge the future P4P king in Andre Ward or even an Andre Dirrell. The fact is, he has done absolutely nothing in his career to warrant a mega super bout with Mayweather Jr; Just take a good look at his resume. His refusal in risking bouts against larger and more skilled opponents who are a lot closer to his own size really hurts his earning opportunities. He should first try carving out his own legacy before calling out a legend in this sport and future Hall of Famer as Floyd Mayweather Jr.

He hasn't? Sergio fought 2 fighters that Floyd ducked - Williams & Margarito. And why should he go to SMW when he's actually a JMW? The rest of your post is - whatever......

Man, there's a lot of haters in here, in the event that Floyd were to take the Sergio fight and defeat him, I wonder how many of these dudes would actually give him the credit. Recently, does everybody remember Mosley? Dude was calling out Floyd left and right and people were saying Floyd was afraid, Floyd takes the fight and dominates the hell out of Mosley and now nobody gives him the credit for that bout.

I think it would be a very intense fight, I honestly think Martinez posses the biggest threat to Floyd. There's no other guy at 147-154 that you can see defeating Floyd besides Sergio. Let's make it happen!

The Mosley fight should have happened at 130 - five years before it did......

then why doesnt he fight ward?? this BS about him being small for a MW is ridiculous... he and chavez were both at 170+ for the 30 day weighin...he walks around at 180 I betcha

*yarns*

Sounds a lot like "blah blah blah, wants to pick on smaller guys, but doesn't want to be the smaller guy" to me.

And don't give me that Chavez, nonsense. That guy was never elite.

Stop - He fought Margarito, Williams, Pavlik who were bigger. So, your point is?

what about ODH and Corrales?

Good 1!

i dont like him because he knocked out my boy pwill and my wife calls him sexy sergio and always roots for him to piss me off... lol

That's hating to the nth degree....

Blah Blah Blah. you know good and damn well Paul Williams in no way, shape, or form deserved a Floyd shot. Sergio's been calling Floyd out for the past year and a half, so don't make it seem like this has been some on going theme. Sergio's also been calling out everybody's favorite fighter, and when everybody's favorite fighter ducked him, you people ignored it. Bottom line, this is a great fight, Sergio has a chance of winning, but he hasn't dealt with an opponent like Floyd, I would have to give Mayweather the edge.

re: Paul (a champ @ 147) not deserving a shot - that's BS. You should stop.

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Naw you wouldn't. You'd just go on about how Sergio wasn't at a good weight and how he's 38 years old and all this other non sense that you Floyd detractors bring up when he beats a fighter that you thought had a chance. If you honestly think the Floyd/Oscar fight was a deserving split decision your delusional as hell dude. Terrible comparison.

Umm, Floyd is just 3 years younger than Sergio.......

based on what mang ?

because you said it , lol

the reason Pac is greater is :

1. Pac fights all comers Jr Don't

2. Pacs opponents were great fighters, Jr refuses to get into firefights with elites and chooses old men , little men and wee little men then brags on himself.

IF Jr wants to be greater than Pac , then he should fight Pac and stop the excuses:

1. He finally said he never meant to say Pac used drugs , LMAO !!!!!!!

he could have forgone that one and just fought Pac and got it over with , they ref would have stopped the fight or Roger would have jumped into the ring to save him or he would have QUIT like his Uncle roger quit on his stool.

now mang I can go on and on but this is sufficient mang

Pac is greater than JR will ever be

Stop your noise - Pac has fought weight-drained cats & old dudes himself.....

[hitking]

Damn do any of you guys read Ward said he would love to fight Martinez but he said he is to small for that weight class. Martinez has said it would be an honor to fight Ward possibly at a catchweight. Martinez is to small for that division. Whats stopping him is the Dollar Signs $$$$ he sees if he fights Mayweather smart guy.

If Martinez is too small for Ward, why isn't Mayweather too small for Martinez. Like I previously said, Martinez weighed 174 or 176 30 days before the Jr fight. Ward weighed slightly less than 180. This tells me both walk around north of 180. On the other hand, it is clear by Mayweathers "rehydration" history in his jr middleweight fights that his body maxes out at about 150. So I don't think one would be outta line saying that Martinez and Ward are a lot closer in natural size than Martinez and Mayweather. I'm just sayin.

[MamaHuevo]

Cmon, lets not exaggerate. Was nowhere near 30, 15 maybe

Ya thats why Chavala Juicing refused to step on the HBO scales on fight night that dude always was 180+lbs on fight night look at his pass fights. Try again!!!!

[hillbilly]

you gotta admit that beating sergio at 160 would easily catapults floyd up in the top 15/20 on most peeps lists

the problem is, floyd would never fight martinez at 160. He likely won't ever fight him at 154--it is way too high risk a fight for Floyd. first, Sergio is a southpaw and Floyd is susceptible to the straight left. See the Cotto fight on this. More importantly, Sergio is not only very quick handed, he's very fleet footed. Floyd's footspeed has dropped precipitously over the last few years. Most importantly, Martinez has way too much power, given his speed, for Floyd. Floyd is very risk adverse. If he has avoided Pacquiao, then he has way more reason to avoid Martinez, who is a much more dangerous fighter at 154.

[hillbilly]

Ya thats why Chavala Juicing refused to step on the HBO scales on fight night that dude always was 180+lbs on fight night look at his pass fights. Try again!!!!

Martinez was 167 the night of the fight. Jr. refused to get on the scale, but he was 181 his fight against Rubio so you can make a reasonable assumption that he was around the same. No matter how you slice it, Jr. was two weight classes above Martinez the night of the fight and still got his ass handed to him.

Let's be honest here--Jr. is a fairly limited guy at 160. If his size was almost enough to eke out a victory against Martinez, Martinez would get blown out against Ward at 168. Ward isn't just big like Jr., he's an exceedingly talented fighter.

[P4P Prince]

Sergio is probably one of the most talented dudes in Boxing right now the, dude is a atheltic specimen and too pick up boxing at such a late age is saying alot.. but too fight FMJ who is 20lbs less in weight is ridicilous, and the funny thing is I think Floyd was still beat him, pick him apart by his jab alone, especially with the hand that is always dropped from Sergio...Maravilla should fight 3 more fights and retire, Ward, Sturm and rematch against Jr....Ward is the most boringest fighter for a guy so skilled, wow, the guy puts me too sleep, the Son of god is a son of pure boredom, the guys fights too not lose not to win...