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  • Originally posted by turnedup View Post
    This is all starting to sound like Paul Williams all over again...Floyd will ahh and ohhh and then say "He's not big enough a star"..go on a hiatus..find someone who makes some waves with a performance but isn't a threat and fight them instead..Floyd was shook about fighting Paul Williams..even to this day you can't get Floyd to say two words about Paul..if Paul went night night at the hands of Sergio and Floyd wouldn't fight paul..well you know it ain't happening. Even if sergio offered 99% of all revenues Mayweather isn't taking that fight. I understand the "PED" excuse for not fighting Pacquaio but Sergio's been calling out Floyd for years..In that time Floyd fought Mosley,Ortiz, and Cotto..all guys lower down the p4p rankings at that time and since then than martinez has and is currently. Hate it or love it..Sergio is a very very legit threat to that zero on floyd's record.
    To be fair, NOBODY would fight Paul Williams except Quintana. Pacquiao nor Cotto wanted any of Paul either.

    And even as a Floyd fan, I'd favor Martinez over him if they ever fought. There is a such thing as too much size.

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    • Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
      If Mayweather fights and beats Martinez at 160 Floyd will be a greater atg than Pacquiao.
      That's true, but it's not happening. It's not even happening at 154. You should know better

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      • Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
        To be fair, NOBODY would fight Paul Williams except Quintana. Pacquiao nor Cotto wanted any of Paul either.

        And even as a Floyd fan, I'd favor Martinez over him if they ever fought. There is a such thing as too much size.
        Mayweather was already a big ww star when Williams was making waves in and around that division. This fight was talked about before Oscar, so Floyd, while a big name in and around 147, was not a house hold super star. There can be no excuses for the fight not happening.

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        • Martinez is just plain silly; no way he beats mayweather. None of that putting hands down sheeit with mayweather. Martinez isn't even De La Hoyas caliber when DLH was at his best and DLH put it on Mayweather.

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          • Originally posted by Prince_Pugilist View Post
            Mayweather was already a big ww star when Williams was making waves in and around that division. This fight was talked about before Oscar, so Floyd, while a big name in and around 147, was not a house hold super star. There can be no excuses for the fight not happening.
            Making waves? As in going 1-1 with Quintana?

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            • Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
              The best? At what? Certainly its not boxing after Cotto beat his ass and got robbed.

              The same Cotto that Pac destroyed easily and made do the moonwalk for half the fight

              And actually the version that Pac fought was closer to prime
              Dude seriously???? I'm not a Mayweather fan (never have been) but the version that Pac fought was not even close to prime and was drain with no real trainer at that! Get off the crack homy! At least Mayweather fought him at a comfortable weight. Both Many and Mayweather play the 'I will fight fighters I can beat' game. So, I don't defend neither of them...get the hell out of here with that nonsense!!!!

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              • No... No you wont

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                • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                  I can't believe that people are still on this "Mayweather is scared of Pacquaio, Mayweather ducks tough fights, Pac is greater than Mayweather" nonsense. People, Pac has arguably lost his last two fights. Personally, I had him losing 7-5 to JMM and winning 7-5 against Bradley. But I definitely couldn't put up too much fight against someone saying he lost both. Dan Rafael, who hates Floyd Mayweather like no other, has Pac down to #4 on his P4P list. Pac is down to #3 on the Yahoo list. Matter of fact, there's not a credible list out there that has Pac #1. He's not the best and never was. He's no different than the DLHs, Titos, Mosleys, and even B-Hops of the world who had "stints" as the P4P #1 when it was clear to everyone that didn't flat out hate the guy that Roy Jones was the true P4P King during the time. Pac is in rebuild mode. He needs to get a win against an elite fighter. And then, maybe then can he be taken seriously again as the best of his era or best now. But until then, all the BS about Mayweather being scared of this and that is nonsense. The guy just got outta lockup. Let Pac beat JMM convincingly, something he has failed to do in three tries. Until then, I don't wanna even hear the Mayweather ducking Pac nonsense cause there's nothing to duck. And as for Martinez, let him try not getting put on his ass by an unproven prospect before he flaps gums about being the best. And fight Ward. Its funny he's always calling out smaller guys but turns ***** when it comes to fighting a bigger one. I mean the "I'm too small" **** needs to stop. This cat weighed 176 30 days before his fight with Chavez. I think Ward weighed about 180 30 days before his fight with Dawson. Martinez aint near as "little" as he claims to be.
                  While I agreed to the majority of your post this right here is non sense. Martinez has fought, been ducked and was the champion at 154 some years ago so the idea of him making the weight there and fighting more comfortably is more believable than him moving up to 168 and being effective. Martinez got caught by a guy weighing 20+Lbs more than he was, got up and went toe to toe with him until the bell. That takes balls my man. Walking around weight and fight night weight is different when they are in the ring. Ward is a naturally bigger guy period. Floyd and Pac won and hold titles at 154 (Pac had Martinez's belt) Martinez never fought at 168 but he did at 154. I do agree that Martinez may be too much for Floyd and Pac because he is not only bigger but skilled but Floyd holds a title at 154 so why is it so wrong for Martinez to call him out? Even Ward said Martinez is too small for him to fight no matter how good he thinks Sergio is.

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                  • Originally posted by davetheone View Post
                    Martinez is just plain silly; no way he beats mayweather. None of that putting hands down sheeit with mayweather. Martinez isn't even De La Hoyas caliber when DLH was at his best and DLH put it on Mayweather.
                    When De La Hoya was at his best he lost mostly every big fight he had against top guys. De La Hoya did not put it on Mayweather. Martinez is knocking out bigger guys back to back and he just out boxed a guy who out weighed him significantly. While I agree Mayweather is an all around better boxer than Martinez technically, I still feel like Martinez has some pros that Mayweather most likely will have trouble with. Being a lefty is one and the other is being able to adjust and figure out his opponents during the fight. Look, Cotto caught Floyd and had him leaking and to me Martinez is way better than Cotto, faster and stronger. The right punch from Martinez that could catch Mayweather off guard could put him down and maybe out. Mosley rocked Floyd. Not unbelievable that Martinez would not have the same success. Plus Floyd is not strong enough to keep Martinez at bay. Would be a great fight but giving it to Martinez if that one ever happened.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 09-29-2012, 06:35 PM.

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