Comments Thread For: Dre Day: BoxingScene.com's Pound for Pound Update

[shade darkar]

watch him fight???like ive never seen the guy fight..but he hasnt beat anyone worthy for him to be top 5 p4p,he just hasnt,Bradley has better wins then him lately and so does Martinez and Donaire.so he gave Manny some close fights what else has he done lately??beat shut out by Floyd and beat some bum at 140 in a rigged fight??then another dude at 140 for a interim belt?

so why do u have martinez number 3? have you seen his last 3 fights? macklin barker and chavez? lol

who has bradley beat? and dont say pacquiao.

[Bushbaby]

He could even be as low as 6 depending on how you feel about Froch and Wlad.

Like I said, you were probably just being nice!!

Concerning the Klithcko Bro's. Realistically, they have every right to be top 10, anywhere 1 chooses to place them. They dominate heavyweight. All of it, period. They don't have to pick & choose nor do they need to. That's what separates them from everyone else. Name a heavyweight not named them & the probable choice is that they get dominated or stopped period.

[-Kev-]

completely disagree. the klitschkos have barely had a career defining fight due to pathetic quality of fighters in their division. cotto is a 3 weight world champion.

Wladimir beat David Haye, i'd say that's career defining. He dominated him.

Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev[undefeated], Tony Thompson[2008], Sultan Ibragimov[undefeated], Calvin Brock[undefeated], Chris Byrd[2000, 2006], Samuel Peter[2006, undefeated], Jameel McCline, Ray Mercer.

How is that not a good resume? To say he's not a top 10 ATG HW, okay, I understand that. The HW division sucks right now. But Wlad has a lot to do with that. You can say he sucks compared to the best HW's of all time, but to say he's not a top P4P fighter of this era is just hating to the max. His resume is really underrated. He beat a lot of good undefeated fighters who would have probably never been beaten if they never fought him or his brother.

[Bushbaby]

Wladimir beat David Haye, i'd say that's career defining. He dominated him.

Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev[undefeated], Tony Thompson[2008], Sultan Ibragimov[undefeated], Calvin Brock[undefeated], Chris Byrd[2000, 2006], Samuel Peter[2006, undefeated], Jameel McCline, Ray Mercer.

How is that not a good resume? To say he's not a top 10 ATG HW, okay, I understand that. The HW division sucks right now. But Wlad has a lot to do with that. You can say he sucks compared to the best HW's of all time, but to say he's not a top P4P fighter of this era is just hating to the max. His resume is really underrated. He beat a lot of good undefeated fighters who would have probably never been beaten if they never fought him or his brother.

Exactly. It's not the brothers fault. They are the single most dominant force in boxing. They absolutely dominate heavyweight. No other champion or pfp fighter are that dominant in any weight class.

[-Kev-]

Exactly. It's not the brothers fault. They are the single most dominant force in boxing. They absolutely dominate heavyweight. No other champion or pfp fighter are that dominant in any weight class.

Lamon Brewster and Ray Austin were also good wins.

[shade darkar]

Wladimir beat David Haye, i'd say that's career defining. He dominated him.

Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev[undefeated], Tony Thompson[2008], Sultan Ibragimov[undefeated], Calvin Brock[undefeated], Chris Byrd[2000, 2006], Samuel Peter[2006, undefeated], Jameel McCline, Ray Mercer.

How is that not a good resume? To say he's not a top 10 ATG HW, okay, I understand that. The HW division sucks right now. But Wlad has a lot to do with that. You can say he sucks compared to the best HW's of all time, but to say he's not a top P4P fighter of this era is just hating to the max. His resume is really underrated. He beat a lot of good undefeated fighters who would have probably never been beaten if they never fought him or his brother.

sure, he beat haye which is his best win. not bad at all. his best days were at cruiserweight tho.

it just isnt a good resume. you just said it yourself, the heavyweight division sucks and has done for years.

cotto is better p4p imo,if you disagree with that then no problem. il point to cotto vs mosley alone. better than any fight wlad has had.

[shade darkar]

Exactly. It's not the brothers fault. They are the single most dominant force in boxing. They absolutely dominate heavyweight. No other champion or pfp fighter are that dominant in any weight class.

i appreciate its not the brothers fault. they are the most dominant because they fight the weakest opposition. no other weight class is as weak so maybe thats why!

i mean did anybody sit through wlad vs mormeck? i mean jeeeeeesus!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Exactly. It's not the brothers fault. They are the single most dominant force in boxing. They absolutely dominate heavyweight. No other champion or pfp fighter are that dominant in any weight class.

They also fight in the worst weight class in boxing. Its not their fault sure but its still a reality.

[Legendary Hater]

lol...it must have killed you to drop Pacquiao to #2, Rold....Bradley NOT in, Froch IN?....what happened to you, man?...you used to be a good and fair judge of talent 8, 10 years ago when you were "talking Boxing" with the boys...

I saw your disclaimer, but the highest Pacquiao could reasonably be at is #4...that is according to the way you and I and every other QUALITY Boxing Fan learned how to assess P4P so long ago...

You think Ward would beat Pacquiao if they were the same size, and DON'T think Mayweather would beat Pacquiao?....wow.

I understand not putting a lot of weight into official results anymore because Corruption and Politics are king, but damn man......tryin' to help...you need to go back and find that place where you saw and wrote things purely....


1. Mayweather (stays here unless he retires, loses, or is inactive for a year)

2. Ward (the obvious heir to the throne)

3. Marquez (HAS to be Top 5)

4. Bradley (the Pacquiao fight was way closer than the popular opinion, could possibly beat Marquez)

5. Wlad Klitschko (so dominant for so long, Vitali maintains he's the better of the two)

6. Pacquiao (Yep.)

7. Martinez (problems with guys like Barker, Macklin, and Chavez Jr.)

8. Donaire (slipped in performances and quality of opposition, could move up a little if he outclasses Nishioka)

9. Moreno (mostly due to skills and potential)

10. Cotto (one of a handful to avenge a brutal loss in a rematch, made Mayweather work)

[Johnny Dough]

Dis list is a disgrace, Dat Ward shouldn't be any higher than 7th on da list and Marquez lost to Pac, Pac lost to dat Bradley kid. How is all dem above dis Martinez? Makes no sense