Comments Thread For: Ward Names Pavlik as Possible Foe, Talks Move To 175

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  • 4Corners
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    #81
    Originally posted by Cigarillo
    Hes not unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination.

    Andre Dirrell can beat him. And aint no telling how different the division looks 5-6 from now.
    Who out of the possible fights for him the next 5 years or so would you favor or give a great chance to beat Ward???

    Dirrell is good, but he needs to beat a Top 10 SMW again before thinking he'll get handed a Ward fight. Plus, it was Dirrell himself who pulled out of the Ward fight the first time.

    Ward won't lose until he's past his best, I just don't see anyone who can beat him around his weight anytime soon.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #82
      Im not ready to crown Ward the King of 175 just yet.

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        #83
        I would like to see him against Pascal at 175, I think it would be a fun fight.

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        • B.U.R.N.E.R
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          #84
          Originally posted by 4Corners
          Who out of the possible fights for him the next 5 years or so would you favor or give a great chance to beat Ward???

          Dirrell is good, but he needs to beat a Top 10 SMW again before thinking he'll get handed a Ward fight. Plus, it was Dirrell himself who pulled out of the Ward fight the first time.

          Ward won't lose until he's past his best, I just don't see anyone who can beat him around his weight anytime soon.
          Ward and Direll dont want to fight each other because allegedly their friends. Which is why I think the fight fell apart. One day hopefully for the fans they wont have a choice.

          Im not saying he'll get handed a Ward fight. Im just saying Dirrell is his toughest matchup. I always said that fight will look similar to Jones-Hopkins 1, a poor mans version of course.

          Talent wise is he really that far ahead of Dirrell? I dont think he is. In fact Id say for sure that he isnt that. Direll is the last man standing at 168. Maybe they'll end up fighting at 175. So for me Dirrell can beat him.

          And if he goes to 175lbs aint no telling if he'll be able to get away with alot of the same things he did at 168. At 168 he was a man amongst boys especially when he turns on his inside game. At 175 against bigger stronger men it might not work. I need to see him there first.
          Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 09-23-2012, 04:44 PM.

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #85
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            They are completely different match-ups
            And they are on 2 completely different levels.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Cigarillo
              Talent wise is he really that far ahead of Dirrell? I dont think he is.
              Dirrell has literally no inside game. How is he going to handle Ward? fall to the ground? that isn't going to cut it.

              And if he goes to 175lbs aint no telling if he'll be able to get away with alot of the same things he did at 168. At 168 he was a man amongst boys especially when he turns on his inside game. At 175 I need to see him there first.
              Agreed.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Cigarillo
                And they are on 2 completely different levels.
                Well the only way that's proved is in the ring. I know you prefer hypotheticals but not me.

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                • 4Corners
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                  #88
                  I still wouldn't mind seeing Ward-Bute, but only if Bute avenges his loss to Froch next Spring.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Well the only way that's proved is in the ring. I know you prefer hypotheticals but not me.
                    I prefer Ward fight someone worth a damn instead of Bute. I mean Froch just wiped his ass with him. He might not even beat Grachev.

                    You are the only person who is pushing that fight right now. Why I have no idea. Bute got his big shot and wet the bed. Let him get a couple wins.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by The Weebler II
                      Dirrell has literally no inside game. How is he going to handle Ward? fall to the ground? that isn't going to cut it.



                      Agreed.
                      If all you think Direll brings to the table is falling to the ground then Im going to end this convo here.

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