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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #71
    Originally posted by Cigarillo
    Dirk did you know Bute is fighting the guy that knocked out Sillakh? He might not even win that fight.


    Why are you propping him up. No one is buying it.
    Propping him up? LOL...i was one of his biggest critics and laughed at people who had him on their p4p lists. Stop projecting you spaz. I think him and Ward would have and still would be a good fight though.

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    • -Kev-
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      I didn't mean for Ward to fight him now, straight after losing to Froch. I just mean in general.I wanted him to face Bute before Froch tbh. I still think its an interesting fight and completely different from Froch-Bute.

      Im just responding to this idea that Ward has "beaten everyone" or "cleaned up 168". There are a couple guys I'd still like to see him fight. Much more than anyone at 175 which is dead.
      I think Pascal, Campillo and Cloud are much more interesting at this point than Bute.

      I think Andre Ward has beaten every one of note at 168.

      You wanted Ward to fight Bute before Froch, but Ward was in the Super 6, he was supposed to fight Froch. He had already taken a Super 6 "breather" by fighting Sakio Bika, who is not a pit stop for any one at all and he showed that by giving Ward a tough fight.

      Ward vs Bute can still happen at 175, maybe next year.

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #73
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        I think Pascal, Campillo and Cloud are much more interesting at this point than Bute.

        I think Andre Ward has beaten every one of note at 168.

        You wanted Ward to fight Bute before Froch, but Ward was in the Super 6, he was supposed to fight Froch. He had already taken a Super 6 "breather" by fighting Sakio Bika, who is not a pit stop for any one at all and he showed that by giving Ward a tough fight.

        Ward vs Bute can still happen at 175, maybe next year.
        No I wanted Ward to fight Bute instead of Froch fighting Bute. It was the best match to make at 168 at the time. I still think its a good match-up.

        That and Andre Dirrell. Both better than Tavoris Lacy or Tight Pants Pascal. Campillo is an ok fight I suppose but that can happen at 175.

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        • GRUSTLER
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          #74
          Originally posted by boxingfeind
          I predicted 2 weeks ago that Ward is gonna be a cherry picker.Ward avoided Anthony Dirrel who was a mandatory and said he was gonna vacate the title but Anthony Dirrel got injured so that was a loophole for him.He also was making excuses not to fight overated Bute.

          And Ward did not clean out 168,he has to beat at least Andre Dirrel to clean out 168,the belt Dirrel won from Froch was suppose to be Dirrels belt but he got robbed in the Froch fight.

          And Dirrel is contemplating moving to 175 but he yet he wouldn`t fight Dawson at 175?Dawson might be ruined cause he came down to 168 and drained himself and took a bad beating.If Dawson is not shot Ward is gonna pick a easy belt holder at 175 and a lot of you gonna be slobbing his knob after he wins a belt from a bum at lightheavy.

          Let me brace myself for the excuses from the Ward groupies.
          Wasn't Direll the one who said he didn't want to fight Ward because they were friends?

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          • 4Corners
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            #75
            Anyways, I don't think Ward will lose until he's passed it. I mean, who's going to beat him around 168-175 in the next 5-6 years???

            He's already beaten Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, and Dawson.

            Campillo, Cloud, Pascal, Cleverly, Bellew, Murat, Stevenson, Rodriguez, Dirrell bro's, etc.

            Who is going to beat him???

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              #76
              I would not mind see Ward massacre Bute but Ward doesn't need Bute on his resume at all. Bute proved his worth by getting totally annihilated by Froch who Ward beat effortlessly. Don't need to believe in triangle theories to know that Bute would be shut out, down and done.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #77
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                Anyways, I don't think Ward will lose until he's passed it. I mean, who's going to beat him around 168-175 in the next 5-6 years???

                He's already beaten Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, and Dawson.

                Campillo, Cloud, Pascal, Cleverly, Bellew, Murat, Stevenson, Rodriguez, Dirrell bro's, etc.

                Who is going to beat him???
                Hes not unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination.

                Andre Dirrell can beat him. And aint no telling how different the division looks 5-6 from now.
                Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 09-23-2012, 04:29 PM.

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  I would not mind see Ward massacre Bute but Ward doesn't need Bute on his resume at all. Bute proved his worth by getting totally annihilated by Froch who Ward beat effortlessly. Don't need to believe in triangle theories to know that Bute would be shut out, down and done.
                  That fight is dead. Bute looked like any time Froch laid a hand on him he got hurt. Ward would manhandle Bute.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by 4Corners
                    Anyways, I don't think Ward will lose until he's passed it. I mean, who's going to beat him around 168-175 in the next 5-6 years???

                    He's already beaten Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, and Dawson.

                    Campillo, Cloud, Pascal, Cleverly, Bellew, Murat, Stevenson, Rodriguez, Dirrell bro's, etc.

                    Who is going to beat him???
                    It only takes one punch to change things, that's why fantasy match-ups don't cut it, he has to do it in the ring.

                    He's a great fighter but he could struggle to impose his physicality at 175. I don't think he's as keen to move up as some think (hence talk of Chavez/Pavlik).

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Cigarillo
                      That fight is dead. Bute looked like any time Froch laid a hand on him he got hurt. Ward would manhandle Bute.
                      They are completely different match-ups

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