Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

[The Big Dunn]

your post from yesterday. please let me know if I'm lying or you flip flopped yet again

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Originally Posted by Bushbaby
I'm gonna tell you right now, Burner was praying for Chavez jr to beat Martinez. Now he's saying Martinez wants Cotto, (which he does). But not because he prefers Cotto to Floyd, he just knows that between Cotto & Floyd, while Floyd hides behind Dirrel & Cotto, Cotto will man up & take his beating like a G.

From 4 corners-Skills Pay bills, all these Floyd fans make tons of excuses. They're so transparent with this crap. But 4 corners had the nerve to make a tread this morning about how Martinez stops Cotto. Don't worry, we know he stops Cotto, along with Floyd. At least Pacman straight refused to leave welterweight, lol.

[The Big Dunn]

Well way to lie dummy. I just said in this tread even that Martinez Floyd is a competitive fight. There goes your lie, out the window. Feel free to make another.

your post from yesterday. please let me know if I'm lying or you flip flopped yet again

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Originally Posted by Bushbaby
I'm gonna tell you right now, Burner was praying for Chavez jr to beat Martinez. Now he's saying Martinez wants Cotto, (which he does). But not because he prefers Cotto to Floyd, he just knows that between Cotto & Floyd, while Floyd hides behind Dirrel & Cotto, Cotto will man up & take his beating like a G.

From 4 corners-Skills Pay bills, all these Floyd fans make tons of excuses. They're so transparent with this crap. But 4 corners had the nerve to make a tread this morning about how Martinez stops Cotto. Don't worry, we know he stops Cotto, along with Floyd. At least Pacman straight refused to leave welterweight, lol.

[Bushbaby]

your post from yesterday. please let me know if I'm lying or you flip flopped yet again

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushbaby
I'm gonna tell you right now, Burner was praying for Chavez jr to beat Martinez. Now he's saying Martinez wants Cotto, (which he does). But not because he prefers Cotto to Floyd, he just knows that between Cotto & Floyd, while Floyd hides behind Dirrel & Cotto, Cotto will man up & take his beating like a G.

From 4 corners-Skills Pay bills, all these Floyd fans make tons of excuses. They're so transparent with this crap. But 4 corners had the nerve to make a tread this morning about how Martinez stops Cotto. Don't worry, we know he stops Cotto, along with Floyd. At least Pacman straight refused to leave welterweight, lol.

Are you saying that no one has ever been stopped in a competitive fight?? Maybe Corrales/Castillo 1 was not competitive because Castillo was stopped then?? You tried & failed & looked whack doing it bro.

[The Big Dunn]

Are you saying that no one has ever been stopped in a competitive fight?? Maybe Corrales/Castillo 1 was not competitive because Castillo was stopped then?? You tried & failed & looked whack doing it bro.

you weren't implying the fight would be competitive, your argument has always been he beats snashes floyd and KO's him. why you changed for the purposes of this thread is beyond me.

[The Gambler1981]

See, this is what I don't get with you dudes. How am I a hypocrite if I do not believe Martinez can compete with Ward at 168. You can't give me any logic explanation as to why you think he can other than (he's a great fighter).

What's hypocritical is when a guy like you, say that Martinez should go to 168 & fight the best fighter in the world, then compare it to Floyd. As if Floyd has ever went up in weight & fought the best fighter.

Fighting Arthur Abraham for his strap is compatible to how Floyd has moved up in weight. Like I said, fighting Ward is a cop out that hypocrites like you conjure up bro.

If I was saying that Martinez beats Ward at 168, then make an excuse as to why he shouldn't fight him, kinda like what you're doing when you say Floyd beats Martinez then make excuses as to why he shouldn't fight him, then I'd be a hypocrite, just like you.

You are a hypocrite because you don't think Floyd can compete with Sergio but are calling hard for the fight but are downplaying Sergio-Ward for the same reason.


As for the rest read what I have said about the fight carefully, and then look up hypocrite you will see which one of of is~

And I will give you a hint it isn't me, hypocrite~

[Bushbaby]

you weren't implying the fight would be competitive, your argument has always been he beats snashes floyd and KO's him. why you changed for the purposes of this thread is beyond me.

Yes Dunn, get caught looking ****** then tell me what I meant to say, really??

Because I say a fighter gets stopped, now means the fight won't be competitive, sure guy.

[SkillspayBills]

Here's a riddle for you.

1.Has Floyd ever weighed 154 for fight even after unofficial weigh ins?
2.Has Martinez ever weighed 168 for a fight even after the unofficial weigh ins?

Someone answer this question for me.

[Bushbaby]

You are a hypocrite because you don't think Floyd can compete with Sergio but are calling hard for the fight but are downplaying Sergio-Ward for the same reason.


As for the rest read what I have said about the fight carefully, and then look up hypocrite you will see which one of of is~

And I will give you a hint it isn't me, hypocrite~

Yes, hypocrites usually say that, good luck bro.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes Dunn, get caught looking ****** then tell me what I meant to say, really??

Because I say a fighter gets stopped, now means the fight won't be competitive, sure guy.

we have debated alot and I have never attributed something to you that you didn't say. It would be odd for me to start out of the blue, today, in a thread that I have agreed with many of your points.

[The Gambler1981]

Floyd is out of his depth, yet he's still there. He's there because of the circumstances. Since the Pac fight wasn't happening, he went for the money fight with Cotto. The only consistent thing with Mayweather is that he's about $$$, so considering that, he will fight Canelo next. The only, and I mean ONLY, way that Martinez can fight Floyd is if he somehow eliminates Canelo from the equation before Mayweather gets to him. Martinez needs to snatch Canelo's 0 away.

Well Martinez just did big business, regardless of how the a side or b-side was so realistically now is his best chance to press for the fight.

Canelo probably does bring more though.

Generally speaking though Floyd does big business with anyone, so there is only so much leverage anyone has on him which is the problem with the Manny fight, Floyd can march to his own drummer and has/can still do great and while Manny can still outdo everyone else he can't out do Floyd.

Still Floyd isn't a 154 pounder he just sometimes fights there against select opposition~