Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

[The Big Dunn]

What if he fights Canelo then Martinez or vice versa? No problem there right?

I don't see the need to fight Canelo now at all. I think next year its a better fight that Canelo, if he makes some improvements, has an excellent chance of winning. I'd prefer Manny in April and Sergio later this year.

[adamdoyle]

I see you didn't choose the latter.

Selling is relative. Its about return on investment.

Lets say floyd has $5 mil to invest in his next fight. If he invests in floyd/martimnez he may sell 1.5 mil. For the same investment he gets 2.2 mil for canelo. so just ppv, assuming all other revenue streams are equal:

2,200,000 x $79.95= 175,890,000
1,500,00 x $79.95= 119,925,000

You giving up $55 mil return on investment because diehard fans assume the Martinez fight is more competitive?

Dont bother man I proved him wrong so he just stopped writing back, he said Sergio shouldnt fight Ward because he's never been at the weight, so i provided an example of this being Duran vs Leonard where Duran jumped 2 weights but this apparently makes me a ******?

[Oxn]

Chavez headlined the ppv Bush come on dude.

Then I guess ODLH headlined his fight with Floyd, then we cant consider Floyd the best selling fighter.

[Bushbaby]

Keep making excuses hypocrite~


Martinez is a great fighter, a great fighter should find a way to not get his ass wrecked and make a fight competitive even out of his element. It would be a very good test of Martinez's upper limit, he doesn't even have to win to gain, all he has to do is look like he belongs in the same ring, then he can go back to work at 160 no harm no foul~

See, this is what I don't get with you dudes. How am I a hypocrite if I do not believe Martinez can compete with Ward at 168. You can't give me any logic explanation as to why you think he can other than (he's a great fighter).

What's hypocritical is when a guy like you, say that Martinez should go to 168 & fight the best fighter in the world, then compare it to Floyd. As if Floyd has ever went up in weight & fought the best fighter.

Fighting Arthur Abraham for his strap is compatible to how Floyd has moved up in weight. Like I said, fighting Ward is a cop out that hypocrites like you conjure up bro.

If I was saying that Martinez beats Ward at 168, then make an excuse as to why he shouldn't fight him, kinda like what you're doing when you say Floyd beats Martinez then make excuses as to why he shouldn't fight him, then I'd be a hypocrite, just like you.

[The Big Dunn]

Dont bother man I proved him wrong so he just stopped writing back, he said Sergio shouldnt fight Ward because he's never been at the weight, so i provided an example of this being Duran vs Leonard where Duran jumped 2 weights but this apparently makes me a ******?

bush is just mad that Canelo is gonna get to make a ****load of dough to fight floyd when he hasn't earned it by beating quality opposition.

From a boxing standpoint he's right, canelo should at least beat a hgihly rated fighter before he gets a floyd fight.

Economically, Bush is being a hypocritical baby. Canelo sells seats. Floyd sells ppv's. Floyd will fight him because of the money it will generate, which is the reason SRL fought Duran while waiting for the Hearns fight to get bigger.

[SkillspayBills]

Here's a riddle for you.

1.Has Floyd ever weighed 154 for fight even after unofficial weigh ins?
2.Has Martinez ever weighed 168 for a fight even after the unofficial weigh ins?

[The Big Dunn]

Then I guess ODLH headlined his fight with Floyd, then we cant consider Floyd the best selling fighter.

ODH did headline the floyd/odh fight. Floyd just brought 1 mil more ppv sales then ODH's previous high of 1.4 mil with Tito. Say whatever you want, floyd made that fight and 24/7 the most interesting thing in boxing in a LONG time.

and seeing as how ODH never got close to that number before floyd, perhaps floyd is the biggest seller. but it doesn't matter to me.

[kiaba360]

Floyd is out of his depth at 154~ just because he won some fights there doesn't make him that class so using that against him and as a shield for Martinez is two sides of the same coin.

It would be fun to see Martinez try and fight Ward that is two highly skilled guys, you as a fan should want to see it~

Or you are just a hypocrite~

Floyd is out of his depth, yet he's still there. He's there because of the circumstances. Since the Pac fight wasn't happening, he went for the money fight with Cotto. The only consistent thing with Mayweather is that he's about $$$, so considering that, he will fight Canelo next. The only, and I mean ONLY, way that Martinez can fight Floyd is if he somehow eliminates Canelo from the equation before Mayweather gets to him. Martinez needs to snatch Canelo's 0 away.

[The Big Dunn]

See, this is what I don't get with you dudes. How am I a hypocrite if I do not believe Martinez can compete with Ward at 168. You can't give me any logic explanation as to why you think he can other than (he's a great fighter).

What's hypocritical is when a guy like you, say that Martinez should go to 168 & fight the best fighter in the world, then compare it to Floyd. As if Floyd has ever went up in weight & fought the best fighter.

Fighting Arthur Abraham for his strap is compatible to how Floyd has moved up in weight. Like I said, fighting Ward is a cop out that hypocrites like you conjure up bro.

If I was saying that Martinez beats Ward at 168, then make an excuse as to why he shouldn't fight him, kinda like what you're doing when you say Floyd beats Martinez then make excuses as to why he shouldn't fight him, then I'd be a hypocrite, just like you.

you are hypocritical because you have posted numerous times that you think sergio smashes floyd the same way you do ward smashes sergio.

[Bushbaby]

you are hypocritical because you have posted numerous times that you think sergio smashes floyd the same way you do ward smashes sergio.

Well way to lie dummy. I just said in this tread even that Martinez Floyd is a competitive fight. There goes your lie, out the window. Feel free to make another.