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Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Derranged View Post
    This is ridiculous, people just can't get over that Floyd is a bit too small to be fighting Martinez. He's not even big for a welterweight. Martinez shouldn't be weight jumping anyway, we've all seen the ramifications of such, especially at his age.

    Of course I'll get attacked saying that I'm "afraid" to see Floyd fight Martinez, which is not the case at all. Just trying to talk some common sense, because people on this site are so ******edly obsessed with seeing Floyd lose. Floyd should fight Pac.

    I also don't think Martinez should move up and fight the best Super middleweight either.
    You make sense sometimes.

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    • #12
      But when he was gonna fight Cotto one of the "advantages" Cotto had was size and nobody seemed to care but now that its about Floyd everyone and their mom cares. I know the size difference between Floyd and Cotto is not the same as the size difference between Floyd and Martinez but still. A few more things, Martinez just fought a much bigger guy than him with no problems. When you're good or better than the other guy you find ways to win so what's the matter here? Isn't Floyd some type of GOAT according to his fanboys? When Floyd was obviously bigger than Marquez none of his fans seemed to care and even cheated on the scales. Same Floyd fans who like Broner never seemed to care or denied he was in a weight class where he was bigger than everyone else.

      So I say take the Martinez test Floyd. Or is he gonna retire again? Or fight Canelo instead? Sit back and enjoy some more cherry picking.


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      • #13
        Its the same because Floyd needs to be protected at all costs

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          Its the same because Floyd needs to be protected at all costs
          Still not over 'Atton mate?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Derranged View Post
            This is ridiculous, people just can't get over that Floyd is a bit too small to be fighting Martinez. He's not even big for a welterweight. Martinez shouldn't be weight jumping anyway, we've all seen the ramifications of such, especially at his age.

            Of course I'll get attacked saying that I'm "afraid" to see Floyd fight Martinez, which is not the case at all. Just trying to talk some common sense, because people on this site are so ******edly obsessed with seeing Floyd lose. Floyd should fight Pac.

            I also don't think Martinez should move up and fight the best Super middleweight either.
            If Floyd is going to stay at 154 though, Martinez is a very viable option and the best fight in the sport to be made. I was with you on this until the Cotto fight, Floyd's a two time 154 champion now. He's considered the best fighter at the weight. If Martinez is willing to move down, then make it happen.

            It should not be "He's too small for Martinez," at the same time that people want him to fight Saul Alvarez.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              1 more time. How many times has Martinez weighted in at middleweight for a middleweight fight??

              Sergio going to 168 is not the same as Floyd at 154, because Floyd has been at 154 twice & is a 2 time champ there.

              Martinez has never ever been to 168,ever.

              Floyd would be fighting at 154 for a 3rd time, 4th if he ducks Martinez & fights ginger instead.
              At least we're in agreement that Floyd has been to a weight and fought 2 champions where he was under sized big time at the weight, and that Sergio has yet to do that and go to 168. Cool.

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              • #17
                Not the same of course !

                Martinez/Floyd : Martinez has 60-70 % chance for winning , he is the favourite for me

                Martinez/Ward : Martinez is the clear underdog , his chance for winning isn't more than 10 % IMO

                so the chances for floyd at 154 is at least triple of that of Martinez at 168

                it is about body limits , Martinez has small body , he isn't natural middleweight , and can't afford 168
                while Mayweather can compete in 154 much easier

                the style of Martinez need spead and and much movements and footwork

                to make it clear , Martinez at 168 is like Pacquiao at 154

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                • #18
                  still bummin martinez i see.

                  there is no reason why martinez cant fight at 168, considering the fact you expect pacquiao to go to 154 for a cotto fight.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Derranged View Post
                    This is ridiculous, people just can't get over that Floyd is a bit too small to be fighting Martinez. He's not even big for a welterweight. Martinez shouldn't be weight jumping anyway, we've all seen the ramifications of such, especially at his age.

                    Of course I'll get attacked saying that I'm "afraid" to see Floyd fight Martinez, which is not the case at all. Just trying to talk some common sense, because people on this site are so ******edly obsessed with seeing Floyd lose. Floyd should fight Pac.

                    I also don't think Martinez should move up and fight the best Super middleweight either.
                    We get that Martinez is bigger. But isn't Floyd smaller in all of his fights at 154?? Wasn't he smaller against Oscar, Cotto, wouldn't he be against ginger??

                    So what's the difference between him being smaller against Oscar, Cotto & maybe ginger as opposed to being smaller against Martinez?? Outside of Martinez being better than all 3??

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Derranged View Post
                      Still not over 'Atton mate?
                      Floyd fans - queens of deflection

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