The people who think weight made no diffrence are in denial

[I Love Jesus!]

first of all chad himself said he was eating he just had to diet so he was eating and we do know he would win at any weight from the dominating performance. The only reason Dawson started looking bad after round three is because he got HURT. You are spinning it probably because you picked Chad to win and want to justify being wrong. The whole camp said he was fine so why go to the built in excuse that Scully hates so much. If it was at 178 he might have survived a little longer that's it. Ward has a superior style. And all you poster trying to make excuses for him are pathetic. Just admit you where wrong for a change? How about that?

This is a pick em fight, I like Dawson to win. In no way in hell is Bad Chad Dawson a 3-1 vs anyone. This guy is the truth, great skills, tough, hungry, and in his prime. He's coming out to shine on Saturday, I expect a classic fight this saturday. Giants just lost but now looking fowards to Saturday night. Cheers to boxing!

So where was your weight drained excuse in this post thread starter?

notice the thread starter ducking my posts?

[savorduhflavor]

I swore to myself I wouldn't think of weight as an excuse but it was just so plainly obvious.

Look Ward is a class above, he'd beat him at LHW too so I'm not trying to say anything like that.

But we have almost never seen Dawson really hurt by one punch to where his legs are gone for the rest of the fight. This is a guy who's fought Adamek, Johnson, Pascal, and Tarver, all MUCH heavier punchers than Ward. The weight most definitely affected his punch resistance. Dawson's never had an iron chin but Ward was shaking him with every clean shot, that's never happened to Dawson.

[Bushbaby]

I swore to myself I wouldn't think of weight as an excuse but it was just so plainly obvious.

Look Ward is a class above, he'd beat him at LHW too so I'm not trying to say anything like that.

But we have almost never seen Dawson really hurt by one punch to where his legs are gone for the rest of the fight. This is a guy who's fought Adamek, Johnson, Pascal, and Tarver, all MUCH heavier punchers than Ward. The weight most definitely affected his punch resistance. Dawson's never had an iron chin but Ward was shaking him with every clean shot, that's never happened to Dawson.

This is what I'm saying. This is by no means Ward's fault. Dawson made his bed & had to sleep in it. I fully expected Ward to win. I just didn't see him thoroughly destroying the man.

[DARKSEID]

If weight wasnt an issue we wouldnt have weight classes

I already knew dawson was weight drained when i saw he rehydrated almost 20 pounds. I predicted the weight was going to affect him and is one of the reasons i bet on Ward.

I dont understand what the argument is here?

[Bermuda]

dawson hadn't fought at smw in 6 years...of course weight was an issue and it showed in the fight. it wasn't like he was moving down a couple of pounds he was moving down 7 pounds.

[boxingfeind]

Look, it's not whether you believe Ward beats Dawson at any weight or not, because we will never know. But this fight out of any other fight is a prime example of what weight drain is. I'm not even going to include the DLH-PAC fight because DLH was just a zombie and ghost.

Dawson had literally no legs or energy from round 1. I had him actually winning rounds 1 and 2 but it was plentifully obvious he was drained. His legs were slow and he had no energy to not even move his head. His balance was way off.

I challege anyone to eat nothing for about a week but bread and water, very low calories while tranining, they will feel like **** and not be able to move.

Props to Ward he's a great fighter, but don't kid yourself Dawson was a zombie in there.

Just forget about it,Your not gonna convince those people who want to see what they want to see.

Me personally i felt that Scully should have talked Dawson out of moving down to 168 cause it was a big risk for Dawson and a lost for Dawson is also a lost for Scully.All that momentum Scully built up when he help Chad beat Hopkins is now lost.Now a lot of people are gonna say he`s a crap trainer.

Scully said he ask Chad is he sure he could make the weight and Chad said yes.But nobody is ever really sure if they can make a weight class unless they made it before recently.

[boxingfeind]

Weight was a factor in this fight. I just can't see it not being. I mean Ward did land a short sneaky left in the 3rd. But his legs were just jelly.

I don't think the skill disparity was affected by the weight. But his punch resistance was not there at all.

I`ve been watching Dawson for a long time and there is no big difference in skill between Ward and Chad.Being weight drained can make a fighter appear to have vastly inferior skilled cause the fighter whose weight drained can`t think straight cause he`s so weak.A fighter needs a certain amount of energy to think fast and to think straight.

[IMDAZED]

I don't think there is any question that the weight affected Dawson. You don't go from taking shots from Antonio Tarver to getting dropped multiple times by Andre Ward just like that. However, I watched the fight again today and there is no doubt in my mind Ward would've won a wide decision anyway. Worked the little feints so well and took away that right hook early. Began firing that short left on the inside after he tasted a few rights in the second and the rest was history.

[boxingfeind]

Originally Posted by Davis40 View Post
first of all chad himself said he was eating he just had to diet so he was eating and we do know he would win at any weight from the dominating performance. The only reason Dawson started looking bad after round three is because he got HURT. You are spinning it probably because you picked Chad to win and want to justify being wrong. The whole camp said he was fine so why go to the built in excuse that Scully hates so much. If it was at 178 he might have survived a little longer that's it. Ward has a superior style. And all you poster trying to make excuses for him are pathetic. Just admit you where wrong for a change? How about that?
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Antonio Tarver who was a heavyweight also said he could make the weight fine for the Hopkins fight but he wound up being weight drained,Chris Byrd said he could make Cruiserweight fine but he wound up being weight drained,Oscar said he could make the weight fine for the Pac fight but wound up being weight drained.Just because a fighter says one thing does`nt necessarily mean its true.The eyes don`t lie people do.

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I`ve been watching Dawson for a long time and there is no big difference in skill between Ward and Chad.Being weight drained can make a fighter appear to have vastly inferior skilled cause the fighter whose weight drained can`t think straight cause he`s so weak.A fighter needs a certain amount of energy to think fast and to think straight.

You must know this from experience, correct?