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  • I Love Jesus!
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    #81
    Originally posted by IIG
    Damn boxing and it's fans has gotten so soft. It's okay to quit now? Of course every instance should be judged on a case by case basis, but this was the absolute worst kind. Dude folded like a cheap suit. I've been arguing against him fighting Ward at 168 since it was first mentioned, but no one seemed to think it was a factor until he got his ass kicked (including Chad himself). Chad's quitting was disgraceful, as was Edison Miranda's earlier today.
    It's not guaranteed it was such a factor. Sounds more like an excuse to me. The guy said he was fine and looked fine in the beginning until he started taking accumulated damage. Then everyone wants to use that EXCUSE. Well you know what to bad. Daswson would have lost at any weight. Ward nullified his style and beat him to the punch with footwork speed and determination. Maybe Dawson would have survived a couple more rounds at 178 but he sure as hell wouldn't have won the fight. So enough with the excuses for once.

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    • DARKSEID
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      #82
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      Originally posted by waxfondler
      corrales vs floyd.... perfect example. thats why people LOVED corrales.

      dawson has a track record for "checking out" mentally, or not pushing hard enough.... hence the disappointment. the guy is arguably one of the most talented boxers today... he just never pushed hard enough. he should be undefeated with his talent level.
      Corralles has knockout power or at least fight changing power, unlike dawson.. And look what happened to him. He was never the same after he lost to floyd.

      Same deal with margarito
      Last edited by DARKSEID; 09-09-2012, 11:46 AM.

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      • DoubleMM
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        #83
        the guy was so tired he could barely throw any punches, eh was a dead man, what was the point?

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        • IIG
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          #84
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          I never called Dawson a coward. I never said anything about being able to do better.

          It's a ****** argument. Comparing a professional fighter that made 600k to fight last night to fans watching at home is beyond ******ed. You compare Chad Dawson to other professional fighters, since he is one.
          And that's my thing. He signs up for a 12 round prizefight and gets paid over $600k, but he should be able to walk away when **** gets tough in there? He is paid to take punches, what's with the arguments that it's okay to quit to avoid injury? This is boxing, injury frequently comes with the job. But the main issue here is there was no injury to speak of, he was just being bested by his opponent. If the ref or corner didn't think it was bad enough to stop it, it sucks to see the fighter make that decision period. If you can't see that, I don't know why you ever were attracted to this sport. The sweet science can get downright ugly. Chad's pay should be docked in reality.

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            #85
            Originally posted by IIG
            And that's my thing. He signs up for a 12 round prizefight and gets paid over $600k, but he should be able to walk away when **** gets tough in there? He is paid to take punches, what's with the arguments that it's okay to quit to avoid injury? This is boxing, injury frequently comes with the job. But the main issue here is there was no injury to speak of, he was just being bested by his opponent. If the ref or corner didn't think it was bad enough to stop it, it sucks to see the fighter make that decision period. If you can't see that, I don't know why you ever were attracted to this sport. The sweet science can get downright ugly. Chad's pay should be docked in reality.
            Refereees aren't doctors. Ask Margaritos right eye. Just because someone is getting paid doesnt mean they should throw their life and future away.

            Have you ever stepped into the ring? Going 10 ounds on mitts and on the bags without getting hit is unbelivably exhausting enough in itself.. Its like running a marathon. The majority of people probably cant even go past 5. Now add getting hit, which feels like your brain and skull being torn apart and having a 2 inch gash above your eye and being so drained you can hardly stand and you're fighting the S.O.G

            Getting paid doesnt justify acting like a fool. Winning does, but chad was not winning that night
            Last edited by DARKSEID; 09-09-2012, 12:14 PM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by IIG
              And that's my thing. He signs up for a 12 round prizefight and gets paid over $600k, but he should be able to walk away when **** gets tough in there? He is paid to take punches, what's with the arguments that it's okay to quit to avoid injury? This is boxing, injury frequently comes with the job. But the main issue here is there was no injury to speak of, he was just being bested by his opponent. If the ref or corner didn't think it was bad enough to stop it, it sucks to see the fighter make that decision period. If you can't see that, I don't know why you ever were attracted to this sport. The sweet science can get downright ugly. Chad's pay should be docked in reality.
              At the end of the day his health is #1 priority. The guy had NOTHING left, he couldn't throw any punches. You want him to keep taking punches to the head till he drops? Chad gave it his all, his body wasn't responding.

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              • Mike Haynes
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                #87
                It's still hard to watch Ward with all that holding and ramming crap. As long as he is allowed to do that I'll never like his fights. However, Chad never took the initiative to get off first....setup the left uppercut with the jab. Seems like you gotta keep a forearm on Ward's throat to cut out some of those cheating ass tactics.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                  Ya, American football...not soccer. Victory or death...no other option...this is spartan law.

                  I also once ran 46 hill sprints and got an awful leg cramp. I was in alot of pain, but too close to 50....so i ran the last 3 in pure agony....cause IM NOT A QUITTER.
                  im talkin good ole amurican football. try laying down in full pads and just rolling up and down the 100 yard field for 2 straight hours. entire team puking at least 3 times each. this was before all the new nancy sht about dehydration. Water is for cowards. Water makes you weak. Water is for washing blood off that uniform and you don't get no blood on my uniform, boy you must be outside your mind! We are going to do up-downs, until Blue is no longer tired, and thirsty!!! lol good times. still not the same as draining your body for a fight.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Even Money
                    Refereees aren't doctors. Ask Margaritos right eye. Just because someone is getting paid doesnt mean they should throw their life and future away.

                    Have you ever stepped into the ring? Going 10 ounds on mitts and on the bags without getting hit is unbelivably exhausting enough in itself.. Its like running a marathon. The majority of people probably cant even go past 5. Now add getting hit, which feels like your brain and skull being torn apart and having a 2 inch gash above your eye and being so drained you can hardly stand and you're fighting the S.O.G

                    Getting paid doesnt justify acting like a fool. Winning does, but chad was not winning that night
                    Which is why I laugh every time someone claims they could go the full 12 with Malignaggi. Could ring true for some fight fans but the majority would be weezing by the fourth round.

                    Chad Dawson simply had no options, he couldn't get on his bike because his tank was empty he couldn't tie Ward up because Ward is a beast on the inside.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ROYistheGOAT
                      How much money do you have? I'm not dissing you, but a bum would make the same decision as you, different situations for different people.
                      hahahaha beautifully said

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