What conclusion can we draw if Trout dominates Cotto??

[ThePunchingBag]

I will say Cotto is on the decline if Trout dominates.

Cotto should have the ability to make it a game fight. If he gets completely outworked I would just take it as another depressing sign of his decline.

If he gets beaten in dominant fashion then he should just retire. It will all be downhill from then on.

[JmH Reborn]

Cotto work the body?? Nope, not since Jab Judah bro, real talk. If you really just compared Trout to Clottey, I'm not even sure if I want to discuss boxing with you anymore. (No offense) of course.

I didn't compare the fighters, I compared the the type of fight. Big difference.

And their advantages/attributes are eerily similar when compared to Cotto, so its fair to compare

--Defense: Check. Trout hasn't shown the staunch defense of Clottey, since he doesn't use that guard in the same way, but he has shown to be a good defender

--Size/Strength: Check. They both have/had size and strength advantages over Cotto

--Youth: Check. While Clottey might be the same or close to the same age as Cotto numerically, at the time, he was considered the fresher fighter engaged in less wars than Cotto at that point. The Clottey fight added another grueling 12 round war on Cotto's body.

So while they don't fight the same, many of the attributes you are claiming that Trout has that will boost him to victory are about the same that Clottey has for starters, secondly I think the fight will play out the same. Cotto will work in the inside and out, trying to hurt Trout. I don't think he can hurt Trout and Trout will begin to stalk at about the same pace and Cotto will begin to box and use that to steal rounds, making it either a 6-6/7-5 type of fight. Trout's problem is his inactivity...hmm, same issue with Clottey.

Go figure; the parallels are easy to spot once you think about it.

[Da Boxer]

Very interesting responses. I've always personally believed that Trout had the tools to compete with the elite fighters in the sport. Cotto will be the beginning of his run.

As most know I'm a fan of both guys, but I honestly believe that Trout will win this fight & IMO he's a better fighter than both Clottey & Margarito at their best. Not drawing comparo's or making triangle theories but Cotto has struggled with his share of fighters, smaller & less talented than Trout.

Trout also has a very good jab. He's faster than Cotto & bigger, faster southpaws trouble the best orthodox fighters. Furthermore Cotto's face marks up easily now & a good stiff jab will do it. I simply hope at least Cotto will be competitive. I hate to see fighters I support get destroyed.

I appreciate your honesty but Cotto is NOT getting destroyed.

I got 50B on it. PM me if interested.

[Bushbaby]

I didn't compare the fighters, I compared the the type of fight. Big difference.

And their advantages/attributes are eerily similar when compared to Cotto, so its fair to compare

--Defense: Check. Trout hasn't shown the staunch defense of Clottey, since he doesn't use that guard in the same way, but he has shown to be a good defender

--Size/Strength: Check. They both have/had size and strength advantages over Cotto

--Youth: Check. While Clottey might be the same or close to the same age as Cotto numerically, at the time, he was considered the fresher fighter engaged in less wars than Cotto at that point. The Clottey fight added another grueling 12 round war on Cotto's body.

So while they don't fight the same, many of the attributes you are claiming that Trout has that will boost him to victory are about the same that Clottey has for starters, secondly I think the fight will play out the same. Cotto will work in the inside and out, trying to hurt Trout. I don't think he can hurt Trout and Trout will begin to stalk at about the same pace and Cotto will begin to box and use that to steal rounds, making it either a 6-6/7-5 type of fight. Trout's problem is his inactivity...hmm, same issue with Clottey.

Go figure; the parallels are easy to spot once you think about it.

Fine breakdown/ explanation of the Clottey comparison.

But I disagree with Trout stalking, if Trout pressure's Cotto, Cotto falls apart. Cotto won't win boxing from the outside either because Trout has a very good jab in his own right & is longer.

Just like you say, if Cotto cannot hurt Trout, (which we agree) upon, he doesn;t have the condition to outbox Trout. When Cotto tires after the 8th round (which he almost always does), Trout takes over & distances himself to haul in the W!!

[Bushbaby]

I appreciate your honesty but Cotto is NOT getting destroyed.

I got 50B on it. PM me if interested.

I don't have the funds to cover 50 billion as I have loads of other bets. But if you're so confident I'll put my 5 billion to your 10, what's good??

[baya]

I think it would mean Cotto was overrated. Cotto has never defeated a real good 154 pounder. I do think Trout will win.

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[borikua]

That Trout is really good.

[JmH Reborn]

Fine breakdown/ explanation of the Clottey comparison.

But I disagree with Trout stalking, if Trout pressure's Cotto, Cotto falls apart. Cotto won't win boxing from the outside either because Trout has a very good jab in his own right & is longer.

Just like you say, if Cotto cannot hurt Trout, (which we agree) upon, he doesn;t have the condition to outbox Trout. When Cotto tires after the 8th round (which he almost always does), Trout takes over & distances himself to haul in the W!!

If Trout at no point does not attempt to stalk Cotto, I don't think he can win. No matter his size advantages, Cotto has proven in nearly every fight he's been in, that he can close the gap as good as anybody in the game. If Trout is happy to let Cotto come to him and counter, he will lose. Cotto miraculously only let Floyd land 20% of his punches under Diaz, while being able to get on the inside of Floyd and throw body shots, unfortunately, nobody is a better defender than Mayweather. If Cotto gets inside of Trout, he won't be avoiding those body punches like Floyd did.

Trout has to pressure Cotto to win the fight, he's simply not good enough to continuously fight off the back foot and win

And after the 8th, which I agree is where Cotto has shown to lose stamina, you believe Trout can go 4-4, which I believe he can't. I think Cotto is a good championship rounds, round stealer. Trout needs tenacity to back up his his natural advantages.

Also, wasn't it reported that Diaz is moving parts of training camp to Colorado? I think he's highlighted stamina as a key issue too. We'll see how that plays out

[Bushbaby]

If Trout at no point does not attempt to stalk Cotto, I don't think he can win. No matter his size advantages, Cotto has proven in nearly every fight he's been in, that he can close the gap as good as anybody in the game. If Trout is happy to let Cotto come to him and counter, he will lose. Cotto miraculously only let Floyd land 20% of his punches under Diaz, while being able to get on the inside of Floyd and throw body shots, unfortunately, nobody is a better defender than Mayweather. If Cotto gets inside of Trout, he won't be avoiding those body punches like Floyd did.

Trout has to pressure Cotto to win the fight, he's simply not good enough to continuously fight off the back foot and win

And after the 8th, which I agree is where Cotto has shown to lose stamina, you believe Trout can go 4-4, which I believe he can't. I think Cotto is a good championship rounds, round stealer. Trout needs tenacity to back up his his natural advantages.

Also, wasn't it reported that Diaz is moving parts of training camp to Colorado? I think he's highlighted stamina as a key issue too. We'll see how that plays out

Another good defense of your points. But I know Trout has the ability to box at distance with Cotto. He possess's the longer jab. He has excellent footwork & while Cotto's own handspeed is underrated Trouts isn't.

Trout will win the 1st round because Cotto likes to feel people out & when Cotto realizes he cannot hurt him, he'll be forced to press the fight & Trout won't sit on the ropes & allow Cotto to work. Gun fight or tactical fight, I see Trout having the physical & mental advantages. I cannot wait for this fight. Like I said I'm glad that it's Cotto who'll be ushering in this elite fighter into stardom!!

[TheUptownKid]

I actually think that cotto's body work is overrated at this point in his career. He was a devastating body puncher at lower weights and he committed to it fully, but as of late it seems he must jab to close distance and does not want to risk being countered by throwing body punches.

On the other hand, in the fights I've seen of Trout he is very committed to body work and it has been effective granted it has been against lesser competition.

I think Trout has a real chance of taking this fight not only bc of the above mentioned advantages (youth, size, power, speed) but bc he throws his combinations both going forward and while backing up. I think his ability to adapt his game plan in the ring along with his commitment to his jab and body punching will keep him in the fight throughout.

All that being said, I would still put my money on cotto, though if he loses I will not be shocked and it would not change my opinion of him as a top notch fighter.