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How many FULL Ray Robinson fights have you seen?
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Originally posted by D-MiZe View PostDan, I can tell you're new-ish to the sport and you should go read about SRR. You won't learn much on here about him but you'll soon understand why he's regarded as the best ever.
Murderer's row is another interesting piece of boxing history, definitely worth a look.
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Andre ward also have a huge flaw, in his whole record he only has 2 ko`s aka he docent have any power.
Pac man dossent know have to cut of the ring.
Kahn have no defence.
Hopkins cant handle speed.
Cotto cant handle speed and movment.
Canelo dont have the lungs to sustain a high tempo.
Dawson is predictable and freezes when he is attacked
Floyd and sergio Martinez are the only current boxes that dont seem to have any so called flaws.
We dont have enough film clips inorder to fully judge Robinson there is only his record and descriptions from past fighters that experinced him in his prime.
I think his record is the best I have ever seen, there are also clips that give evidence that he truly was great.
I dont know if he was the greatest(hate that expression), personaly in my book Ali is the greatest.
But the baddest man pound for pound that I have ever seen was prime super middel weight Roy jones jr.
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Originally posted by the larryx View PostNot sure there have been so many great boxers but Robinson is not the most complete fighter man,he has his flaws and alot of them,he was a great fighter no doubt but not the best i have ever seen...
Here is a clip of Sugar Ray Robinson in his twilight years when he was in his 40's.
Although he was not at his best (either in general or in this fight) the fact that he is fighting a stick and move Boxer in this fight gives him an opportunity to display his Boxing skills.
Last edited by res; 08-30-2012, 07:26 AM.
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Originally posted by res View PostEverybody has flaws, that's why the phrase is "most complete", it's a comparative phrase. I don't buy for example that Robinson is as good a technical Boxer as Mayweather and certain others we could name, but most of those same technical Boxers couldn't also turn into a brutal head to head brawler at the drop of a dime like Robinson could.
Here is a clip of Sugar Ray Robinson in his twilight years when he was in his 40's.
Although he was not at his best (either in general or in this fight) the fact that he is fighting a stick and move Boxer in this fight gives him an opportunity to display his Boxing skills.
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Originally posted by the larryx View PostNot sure there have been so many great boxers but Robinson is not the most complete fighter man,he has his flaws and alot of them,he was a great fighter no doubt but not the best i have ever seen...
didn't you not realize that robinson's big fights in the 50's and at MW are almost all filmed until a few days ago?
physically robinson is condisidered the least flawed fighter of all time. i know you hug floyd's c#ck, and wish it was him, but it's not. floyd cannot punch. floyd doesnt throw a ton of punches. floyd's chin is good, but it's not ATG.
there's not a ton that goes into the physical talent of a fighter, but that doesn't mean it's not extremely rare to find a complete fighter.
if he's fast and fleet, hits hard, and has a good chin, he's considered complete
robinson was very fast and had some of the best combinations ever thrown
his left hook is considered one of the best ever thrown, and his right hand was very similarly lethal
and his chin wasn't just good, it was maybe as great as anybody who ever boxed
AKA ATG speed, power, and chin. those are the basic pieces of talent that you bring into boxing, boiled down to their simplest terms.
you arent an authority here because it's very obvious that you've hardly seen the man fight, and claim that nobody else has seen him fightLast edited by New England; 08-30-2012, 07:44 AM.
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Originally posted by New England View Postdidn't you not realize that robinson's big fights in the 50's and at MW are almost all filmed until a few days ago?
physically robinson is condisidered the least flawed fighter of all time. i know you hug floyd's c#ck, and wish it was him, but it's not. floyd cannot punch. floyd doesnt throw a ton of punches. floyd's chin is good, but it's not ATG.
there's not a ton that goes into the physical talent of a fighter
if he's fast and fleet, hits hard, and has a good chin, he's considered complete
robinson was very fast and had some of the best combinations ever thrown
his left hook is considered one of the best ever thrown, and his right hand was very similarly lethal
and his chin wasn't just good, it was maybe as great as anybody who ever boxed
AKA ATG speed, power, and chin. those are the basic pieces of talent that you bring into boxing, boiled down to their simplest terms.
you arent an authority here because it's very obvious that you've hardly seen the man fight, and claim that nobody else has seen him fight
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