How many FULL Ray Robinson fights have you seen?

[Larry the boss]

yes he is, larry.

thats your opinion...you cant change mines

[New England]

As i said i think he was a great fighter,but not the best ive seen...why do ya'll get upset cause i do not share your opinions??seriously your opinion is yours and mines are mine,he was great but not the best to me

there are opinions, and then there are informed ones. yours is blatantly uninformed. until a few days ago it was abundantly clear that you had hardly seen robinson fight..

[New England]

thats your opinion...you cant change mines

that's not a good thing


boxing is a learning process. as you spend time around the game your opinions about things should change.

[Larry the boss]

there are opinions, and then there are informed ones. yours is blatantly uninformed. until a few days ago it was abundantly clear that you had hardly seen robinson fight..

I have seen him fight,i asked about his ww fights....you can see his mw fights anywhere.i am a boxing fan just like you and watch boxing all day...i do have YouTube man,and just cause i disagree with you does not mean you have to try to belittle me and act like you are superior sir,get off that high horse.

[Larry the boss]

that's not a good thing


boxing is a learning process. as you spend time around the game your opinions about things should change.

spend time around it???man im 31 and boxed since i was 12..see how you try to judge people you know 0 about???my son boxes,i love the sport so save your blind judgements and just agree to disagree

[New England]

spend time around it???man im 31 and boxed since i was 12..see how you try to judge people you know 0 about???my son boxes,i love the sport so save your blind judgements and just agree to disagree

i'm not saying that you dont spend time around boxing. i am saying that as you spend time around boxing you should learn and evolve. a refusal to make any sort of turn around on ray robinson, the man considered to the be consensus GOAT by virtually everybody, is not a good thing.

it's also abundantly clear that you didn't think robinson was well filmed, and that you hadn't seen a ton of his fights.


is everybody else wrong about him, from the historians to informed fans?


i'll also say this, i dont like to call rank, but i've read more and seen more film of fighters from the past (let's say pre 1960,) in the last five years than you've ever seen in your life. i know you well enough to be very confident of that. some opinions are worth more than others.

[TheGreatA]

I think we have to listen to the self-proclaimed "Greatest" here:



Robinson rocking Bobby Dykes to his boots while going backwards:


6:45

[AntonTheMeh]

I'd suggest you watch the ENTIRE fight and not just the highlights: Leonard spent the last two-thirds of that fight stalking Hearns like a slugger. It was Hearns who was on the bicycle trying to dance behind his jab.

Got to love these dip****s that run their cum dumpsters and don't even watch the damn fights.

Poet

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lol at him saying rr didn't have the footwork.

who the **** do these guys think ali was emulating? who in turn was emulated leonard, who in turn was emulated by jones and mayweather.

[I Love Jesus!]

Since you guys are talking old school. I figured I'd post a few comparison pics of my vintage Flores 6 oz. fight gloves, a brand Robinson has been known to use in a few of his fights.

Flores 6 oz./Grant and Everlast 10 oz.
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Top to bottom 6/8/10 oz. Flores gloves.
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LOL Floyds brittle hands wouldn't last 1 round in those gloves

[I Love Jesus!]

You can't even debate with these historians, they just go on like they was there and twist the truths until they see fit.
You only have to look at how dates miraculously change, weights, venues and such

As if it wasn't bad enough the likes of these old managers padding their fighters records with fights that actually never happened (Harry Greb, Ezzard Charles & the likes), you now have these ''historians'' going their best to brainwash people and trying to change history by not only making stuff up but by editing Wikipedia & various other sites with their clutter they label as ''facts''

You can't debate when you're attacked by 18 all of who claim to of held Sugar Rays jockstrap & massaged his feet.
After being banned from the history section for disagreeing with a certain mod, I can no longer be ar5ed to debate, just let them create their own version of events.

At the end of the war Cocoa Kid, Kid Tunero, Holman Williams, Charley Burley, Lloyd Marshall, Archie Moore & the likes were all 150-160
Yet The GOAT Sugar Ray Robinson didn't fight a single one over a 3 year period.
Despite being called out on numerous occasions he fluctuated, fighting the weakest of the era, letting the best fight the best & take lumps out of each other, until they was completely shot or retired would he move up full time.

LOL That's exactly what you tried to do until you got owned now you're running around butt hurt trying to save face.