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  • Frank Ducketts
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    #61
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    ****-on, there is no way he was neutral in that fight, it was clear in his mind who was supposed to win and he made sure it happened just as he did in the Ortiz fight. It's laughable how flo-mos try to justify the actions of this joke ref.
    Hattons style was shock value until he wasnt a shock to anyone anymore, and he had no plan B if he couldn't hold and hit you.

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    • Frank Ducketts
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      #62
      Leonard could fight Duran 1000 times the same way like their first fight and Leonard would do well and lose 1000 times.

      Leonard could fight like he did in fight 2 against Duran, and Leonard wins in 1000 times.

      Who wins more, the Duran of fight 1 or Leonard of fight 2?

      I say Leonard fight 2.

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        #63
        Originally posted by The Weebler II
        ?? Cortez was all over him from the opening bell. If anything Floyd was allowed to get away with rough tactics throwing elbows etc.
        This is very true

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        • Frank Ducketts
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          #64
          This isn't a Hatton thread. Last Hatton comment.


          And Floyd didn't THROW elbows at Hatton. He used it when Hatton grabbed or tried to grab his arm.

          Don't pretend like Hatton fought clean nside like Julio Cesar Chavez, lmao.

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          • djtmal
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            #65
            Originally posted by intoccabile
            Are you two arguing over how Leonard fought Duran? People are blind. Leonard isn't this "dancer" that everyone paints him out to be. Leonard went to war a LOT, and went to war in the first Duran fight.
            intoccable...no..no argument at all, regarding how sugar ray leonard, fought roberto duran in the first fight (actually i preferred the first fight)....i always knew, that sugar ray leonard, was a versatile fighter...i do believe that, sugar ray leonard, underestimated roberto duran's ring IQ, and infighting skills at a higher weight, and fought him unintelligently...

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              #66
              Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
              Leonard could fight Duran 1000 times the same way like their first fight and Leonard would do well and lose 1000 times.

              Leonard could fight like he did in fight 2 against Duran, and Leonard wins in 1000 times.

              Who wins more, the Duran of fight 1 or Leonard of fight 2?

              I say Leonard fight 2.

              frank ducketts, in the third fight between sugar ray leonard, and roberto duran, sugar ray leonard, intelligently boxed circles around duran, who was thought to be over the hill by the third fight, but when sugar ray leonard, tried to step in and go for the ko on roberto duran, he almost woke up a sleeping giant, and decided it was best to keep boxing his way to an easy decision...so frank ducketts, your observation, is spot on in my book

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                #67
                Originally posted by intoccabile
                Leonard went to war a LOT, and went to war in the first Duran fight.
                intoccable, sugar ray leonard, didn't go to war against thomas hit man hearns, until angelo dundee, told him he was losing badly on the scorecards, and angelo dundee, knew sugar ray leonard, was being badly outboxed, by thomas hit man hearns...also, intoccable, sugar ray leonard, knew not to go to war with marvelous marvin hagler, because if he did, he might not have lived to tell about it...lol

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                • Frank Ducketts
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                  #68
                  Here is the mistake that many of us are making when judging these two legends.

                  Regardless, that was not the best Sugar that fought Duran in fight 1. Duran had a game plan, Leonard didn't. Durans aggression, stay in your face style, and cutting the ring off kept Sugar from boxing and coming in and landing his fast/hard combos.

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                    #69
                    You can't say that Leonard was at his best in fight 1, and then give Duran an excuse for losing fight 2.

                    Can't have it your way. It insults my intelligence.

                    Be objective.

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                    • Frank Ducketts
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                      #70
                      Remember Leonard could box you...always had that in him, but he would move, and in a flash open up with blistering combos.

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