Is the US really no longer a boxing powerhouse?

[JAB5239]

Its changing overtime though, boxing in europe is slowly on the rise. Very rarely will you see an American boxer pack out 50 k stadiums for easy title defenses. The Klitschko's do that every time

Europe is certainly on the rise, I agree. But the reason the Klits sell out 50K stadiums and Americans don't is because Casino's buy the rights to host the biggest fights so they can profit from gamblers who get comped tickets.

[StarshipTrooper]

Europe is certainly on the rise, I agree. But the reason the Klits sell out 50K stadiums and Americans don't is because Casino's buy the rights to host the biggest fights so they can profit from gamblers who get comped tickets.

A Joe Louis fight used to sell out Yankee Stadium. In the '70s the casinos pretty much took over the hosting. That's when you started seeing all the big fights go to Las Vegas or Atlantic City.

Poet

[SirTomJones]

Europe is certainly on the rise, I agree. But the reason the Klits sell out 50K stadiums and Americans don't is because Casino's buy the rights to host the biggest fights so they can profit from gamblers who get comped tickets.

Who outside of Floyd and Manny would manage to sell 50k?

[New England]

Europe is certainly on the rise, I agree. But the reason the Klits sell out 50K stadiums and Americans don't is because Casino's buy the rights to host the biggest fights so they can profit from gamblers who get comped tickets.

and nobody is paying 2500 for ringside seat


i'd guess that the scalp / street prices for the pacquiao - mayweather jr fight would have been way north of ten grand. way north


i certainly cant afford it, but there are guys who will show up to vegas and lose 10X that much on the tables after the fight.

[JAB5239]

Who outside of Floyd and Manny would manage to sell 50k?

Granted, these fights are few and far between. But who's selling out 50K stadiums in Europe right now besides the Klits?

[SirTomJones]

Granted, these fights are few and far between. But who's selling out 50K stadiums in Europe right now besides the Klits?

Yeah 50k is an incredible amount.


The British seem to be among the most loyal of nationalities when it comes to boxing.


Outside of Mayweather there is no real American boxer who is a big draw. Who would be the second biggest draw in American boxing? Bradley? Ward? Dawson?

[JAB5239]

Yeah 50k is an incredible amount.


The British seem to be among the most loyal of nationalities when it comes to boxing.


Outside of Mayweather there is no real American boxer who is a big draw. Who would be the second biggest draw in American boxing? Bradley? Ward? Dawson?

Lol, I gotta be honest, As an American Im a fan of British boxing fans. When Hatton brought 10,000 of his countrymen over and they were all singing.....win or lose, that was some cool and loyal shit to see. As a fan of ANYTHING you have to admire that passion!

[JAB5239]

That thread is a pathetic mess of nationalistic baiting, which is all it was designed for. I see very few facts from those arguing against the idea the football and basketballs popularity have hurt boxing in terms of the best athletes entering it. I haven't see anyone bring up college and economic reasons. Someone correct me if Im wrong, but isn't college in Europe free or at least much cheaper than it is here? I know it is very expensive here and boxing is not amongst the sports you can receive scholarship money. From an early age kids are exposed to football and basketball in school. Sports is also the easiest way to an education for those who can't afford it. I know thousands and thousands of scholarships are given out every year for football and basketball. How many are given out for boxing in the US. So its just ridiculous to think that hasn't had an impact on our larger fighters. As the world opens up of course it will gain ground on whoever is in the lead at ANYTHING, that's just how the cookie crumbles. But to think there are no other contributing factors is just ignorance.

As I've already stated the US certainly loses potential boxers to other sports because of the advantages of possibly getting scholarships to better ones self. European countries don't have this problem because it is either free to go to college or cheap enough where most can afford it.

Here is the breakdown of schools allowed to offer athletic scholarships.

Division 1 - There are 50 schools with a total 83 scholarships each.That is 4150 athletes a year.

Division 1AA - There are 111 schools with 63 scholarships each. That is 6993 athletes a year.

Division 2 - There are 282 schools with 63 scholarships each. That is 17,766 athletes a year.

This means The United States keeps almost 30,000 kids looking to get into college every year interested in a sports other than boxing. So that means yes, the talent pool is depleted every single year in the US.

Still waiting for one of you guys who keep putting up your NFL/NBA crying arguments to respond to this. Don't be afraid, its just the internet.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Look at Shaquille O' Neal.............He's a fucking KILLER!!!




Damn Lebron would murder the Klits.



Mofos like these are the Klitschko killers? Shit!!!!

[JAB5239]

Look at Shaquille O' Neal.............He's a fucking KILLER!!!




Damn Lebron would murder the Klits.

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...xP6sSUyeSQ3h5_


Mofos like these are the Klitschko killers? Shit!!!!

I get it, you can't argue with the facts so you would rather troll. Wonder where you picked that technique up from?