"The US is not doing as well in boxing because they're all in the NBA & NFL" - agree?

[FUC_U_PAYME]

from 1992 to 2012, they've won more gold medals than the us.

Are all the american potential medal winners boxers (like michael carbajal, ricardo williams, floyd mayweather, oscar de la hoya, terrance cauthen, kenneth gould, romallis ellis, clarence vinson, and kennedy mckinney were in the past) in the nfl and nba?

ireland's john joe nevin (flyweight), michael conlan (bantamweight) and paddy barnes (light flyweight) will win medals.

are the americans who might have won in their weight divisions in the nba or nfl?

yes and from late 1980's boxing has been on delcine because of the rise of the nfl and nba when those sport start to real take of with superstars that was on tv all the time so young american want to play in the nba or nfl then go into boxing.

[The Hammer]

yes and from late 1980's boxing has been on delcine because of the rise of the nfl and nba when those sport start to real take of with superstars that was on tv all the time so young american want to play in the nba or nfl then go into boxing.

So potential light flyweight Olympic medal winners like Michael Carbajal are in the NBA and NFL?

[SCtrojansbaby]

This is by far the most ******ed theory

[Mr. Fantastic]

so why did we start decline in both pro and amatures when nfl and the nba became bigger?

For being 30 yo this is funny. You must of missed when Jordan, Byrd, Johnson and all them dudes played. Now that was basketball.

And with football...shoot America's team the Cowboys were on fire with them Superbowl wins and the NFL had many great players.

All this shit is just sour fucking g****s from us because we're not the dominant dudes in boxing anymore. Specially the so called prestigious HW division that has been afro american dominant for many years.

[The Gambler1981]

For being 30 yo this is funny. You must of missed when Jordan, Byrd, Johnson and all them dudes played. Now that was basketball.

And with football...shoot America's team the Cowboys were on fire with them Superbowl wins and the NFL had many great players.

All this shit is just sour fucking g****s from us because we're not the dominant dudes in boxing anymore. Specially the so called prestigious HW division that has been afro american dominant for many years.

Yea they played in the 80's, which led to less people taking up boxing and the effects were felt in the 90's~.

It is not instant, you clearly have no clue how things work.

You could make way more money in boxing before those sports blew up so the risks were worth it, once better opportunities arose to make close to as much there was little reason to take up boxing. Hell you can still make more in boxing but the risk associated make it an unwise decision for any high end athlete to go that route, more dudes really make it in the NBA or NFL in a single year than dudes who really make it in 2 decades in boxing.

And by Byrd do you mean Sue Byrd because it is Larry Bird~

[bojangles1987]

Pretending that the rise of the NBA and NFL and the decline of heavyweight boxing in the United States happening at the exact same time is nothing more than a coincidence is really naive.

The people arguing that it is nothing more than a coincidence are now asking about lower weight divisions to try and change the subject. Other countries have always had great fighters in the lower weight divisions, what is happening in those divisions now is no different than throughout the history of the sport. The decline of American boxing is almost solely in the heavyweight division.

Guess what division basketball and American football players would be in if they boxed?

[The Gambler1981]

its a valid argument...and it can be applied to lots of sports in America, especially soccer...

i think its very true that the NBA and NFL currently attract the highest caliber athletes in the states...and thats because of money..but to point to it as the SOLE reason for the decline of the American Heavyweight is a stretch...

That is the best response~ the USA clearly have garbage athlete in the heavyweight division. The rest of the world can produce quality boxers though, all it takes is a couple which is exactly who has been dominating the heavyweight division~ a couple big world class athletes who are very good boxers. It is two fold~

[bojangles1987]

For being 30 yo this is funny. You must of missed when Jordan, Byrd, Johnson and all them dudes played. Now that was basketball.

And with football...shoot America's team the Cowboys were on fire with them Superbowl wins and the NFL had many great players.

All this shit is just sour fucking g****s from us because we're not the dominant dudes in boxing anymore. Specially the so called prestigious HW division that has been afro american dominant for many years.

Gee, 30 years ago Magic and Bird helped explode the popularity of the NBA here in America. About thirty years ago, the quality of American heavyweights began drastically declining. But that's just a coincidence, right?

[SN!PER]

While the U.S. did badly in boxing events, they are currently ranked #1 in total medals (ahead of Russia and China who are extremely competitive) suggesting their athletes are more involved in other sporting events.

[FrankieBruno]

People go where the easy money is, also you gotta inspire people to go into boxing

Lennox Lewis did wonders for British HW's, all the HW guys say he is their idol, they all want to replicate what he did..hell even Wlad says Lennox is his idol

Which recent boxers do the Americans have? the last great one they had was Hollyfield and look at the state of him, thats a turn off right there....

On the flip side you see american boxers coming through in other weight classes, Floyd has alot to do with this, his effect is having a influence on the new generation

The Americans need a boxer like Tyson, someone who can set the HW division to alight,

There is talent out there i'm sure of it, but someone has to entice these guys to pick boxing over nba/nfl or being a drug dealing gangsta